On May 10, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
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Issues and possible solutions: - Any source code or Jars under GPL cannot be checked into ASF CVS. One possibility is for FSF folks to publish maven snapshots of the daily build.
Yes - that would solve things for now and get us going to get things working
- Need to check if the classpath jars can be part of a install package
from ASF Legal folks. Problem is we don't want users do download two
things from two places to get a working JDK/JRE. One solution is the
shared classpath instance model where many VM's share the same
classpath jar. this may reduce the problem, but not an ideal solution.
This is something to work on, but not critical to solve now.
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Question from the point of view of a potential user of Harmony:
- Same question i asked for Geronimo...A specific product in my company
needs Java's, currently we ship JVM from [SUNW/IBM] by default. This
product is NOT positioned as a JVM/JRE engine and NO claims of Java
compliance is made. We want use Harmony+Classpath as the default JVM for
our product. We will comply with ALL requirements of ASL 2.0 under
which Harmony is licensed. We DON'T want to talk to SUN/ASF/FSF or pay
them any money (we don't pay SUNW now!!), we DON'T want to run the TCK's
before we ship the product. We just want to use Harmony as-is BUT we'd
like to issue some patches to our customers if necessary for product
support. What are my additional obligations because of Classpath
which is the default library in Harmony? (ones that are not applicable
to other ASF projects)
I think you are going to get into some trouble. What bothers me is if you claim that such product runs on Java, and I can add Java code to run in the product, I'm going to expect Java. I don't know what Harmony + Classpath is unless it's certified via the TCK.
I think that we want to do a few things :
a) Make sure that we make certified Harmony (+ whatever dependencies...) easy for people to bundle in the way you want to, while still being Java. I think that is what the entire community (including SUNW) wants - more compatible Java.
b) Encourage people that need to make derivative works and call them Java to certify those derivative works. This also is good for the Java universe.
geir
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