On 2/10/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Tim Ellison wrote:
> > George Harley wrote:
> > <snip>
> >> The post I want to refer to does not seem to be in the
> >> mailing list archive (!!??!)
> >
> > I don't remember you saying that (and I would have remembered such an
> > eloquent and considered post ;-) )
>
> I didn't get it either, and as he George said, it's not in the archive.
>
> If anyone got it, can you let us know here (and once someone says they
> got it, everyone else stop telling us - we just need to know if anyone
> got it...)



I got it. I thought it was done intentionally: George sent it directly to me
only ... so it is not in the list.

Returning back to the 'missing post'. I agreed with suggestion but currently
we don't have Harmony provider so we should define how we locate 'trusted
provides' to be secure.

Thanks,
Stepan Mishura
Intel Middleware Products Division

geir
>
> >
> > I still have mail that far back in my reader, and it looks like I didn't
> > get it either.  Maybe it never hit the list.
> >
> > p.s. +1 to the comment BTW
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tim
> >
> >> so let me copy the relevant text in-line
> >> here as I believe that what it says is important :
> >>
> >> --- snip from dev-list append of 1st Feb 2006 by
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
> >>
> >> Just to clarify your clarification of the question of current Harmony
> >> behaviour ...
> >>
> >> (A) With the current Harmony build it looks like there is *no attempt*
> >> to verify the signature of a signed jar file that has been placed on
> the
> >> bootclasspath. I know this because I took a signed BC provider jar (as
> >> downloaded from http://www.bouncycastle.org), deliberately tampered
> with
> >> the .SF file in the META-INF folder by removing a few lines, then added
> >> the modified jar to the bootclasspath of a simple program that listed
> >> the algorithms supported by the BC provider. Everything worked fine.
> >>
> >> (B) With the current Harmony build it looks like an attempt is made at
> >> verifying the signature of a signed jar in the jre/lib/ext directory.
> >> The attempt fails because it involves trying to use functionality
> >> exported by the jar currently being verified and so opens up a whole
> >> problem with cycles.
> >> To my mind, (B) is a definite bug that would be fixed by having a
> >> default Harmony provider. The result of my little bit of playing with
> >> (A) just reinforces the argument that relying on the bootclasspath to
> >> load your third party providers is not er ... secure.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- end of snip from dev-list append of 1st Feb 2006 by
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> George
> >> IBM UK
> >>
> >>
> >> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Tim Ellison wrote:
> >>>> Arghhh!
> >>>>
> >>>> make it stop
> >>>>
> >>>>> From below:
> >>>>  -Xbootclasspath/a:${build.path}/tests${path.separator}${
> env.CLASSPATH}
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> putting the CLASSPATH onto the bootclasspath.  What are you smokin'
> ?!
> >>> That was the patch :)
> >>>
> >>> All that really is supposed to do is get junit and bcprov there.  I'll
> >>> move.
> >>>
> >>> geir
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> [ I know you are fixing this stuff, but I needed to vent ]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -------- Original Message --------
> >>>> Subject: svn commit: r376144 -
> >>>>
> /incubator/harmony/enhanced/classlib/trunk/modules/security2/make/build.xml
> >>>>
> >>>> Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 01:44:21 -0000
> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>
> >>>> Author: geirm
> >>>> Date: Wed Feb  8 17:44:19 2006
> >>>> New Revision: 376144
> >>>>
> >>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=376144&view=rev
> >>>> Log:
> >>>> put the bootclasspath stuff back for classlib tests
> >>>> because as I'm renaming some tests, it appears that
> >>>> when things reordered, tests broke.  On a lark, I put
> >>>> it back, and things work.  Scary.
> >>>>
> >>>> Will investigate further, but wanted to fix so tests run
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, changed one of the exclusion lists due to renaming.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Modified:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> incubator/harmony/enhanced/classlib/trunk/modules/security2/make/build.xml
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Modified:
> >>>>
> incubator/harmony/enhanced/classlib/trunk/modules/security2/make/build.xml
> >>>>
> >>>> URL:
> >>>>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/incubator/harmony/enhanced/classlib/trunk/modules/security2/make/build.xml?rev=376144&r1=376143&r2=376144&view=diff
> >>>>
> >>>>
> ==============================================================================
> >>>>
> >>>> ---
> >>>>
> incubator/harmony/enhanced/classlib/trunk/modules/security2/make/build.xml
> >>>>
> >>>> (original)
> >>>> +++
> >>>>
> incubator/harmony/enhanced/classlib/trunk/modules/security2/make/build.xml
> >>>>
> >>>> Wed Feb  8 17:44:19 2006
> >>>> @@ -499,6 +499,8 @@
> >>>>              <env key="JAVA_HOME" value="${vm.home}"/>
> >>>>
> >>>>              <!-- to pick up junit.jar and bouncycastle.jar -->
> >>>> +            <jvmarg
> >>>> value="-Xbootclasspath/p:${build.jars.path}/crypto.jar${
> path.separator}${build.jars.path}/x_net.jar"/>
> >>>>
> >>>> +
> >>>>              <jvmarg
> >>>> value="-Xbootclasspath/a:${build.path}/tests${path.separator}${
> env.CLASSPATH}"/>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>              <jvmarg
> >>>> value="-
> Djava.security.properties==${build.lib.path}/security/java.security"/>
> >>>>
> >>>> @@ -518,7 +520,7 @@
> >>>>                      <exclude
> >>>> name="org/apache/harmony/security/test/**"/>
> >>>>                                          <!-- Harmony exclude list
> -->
> >>>> -                    <exclude
> >>>> name="java/security/AlgorithmParameterGeneratorTest1.java"/>
> >>>> +                    <exclude
> >>>> name="java/security/AlgorithmParameterGenerator1Test.java"/>
> >>>>                      <exclude
> name="java/security/KSBuilderTest.java"/>
> >>>>                      <exclude
> >>>> name="java/security/KeyPairGeneratorTest1.java"/>
> >>>>                      <exclude
> >>>> name="java/security/KeyPairGeneratorTest3.java"/>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >
>



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Thanks,
Stepan Mishura
Intel Middleware Products Division

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