Hi, FYI: I've logged this as HARMONY-953. So now we should not forget about it.
With Best Regards, 2006/7/18, Richard Liang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Alexei Zakharov wrote: > I mean this should have about the same priority with the toString() > conversion task discussed in adjacent thread IMHO. > Yes. We could do it *lazily* if there's no objection. ;-) > 2006/7/17, Alexei Zakharov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> IMHO since even BEA VM behave differently in this case we may qualify >> this as a low-priority task, rise non-bug JIRA and postpone it until >> we meet the real-world app that relies on this. Do nothing is better >> than do something that we aren't really sure we should do. :) >> >> Regards, >> >> 2006/7/17, Richard Liang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > >> > >> > Vladimir Gorr wrote: >> > > In this case I'd like to understand what behaviour is correct >> > > and what should be made to satisfy the users. I have no any >> preference. >> > > >> > Hello Vladimir, >> > >> > I think all of us agree that it's possible to following RI's behavior, >> > Right? The question is we shall decide to follow or not. Any >> suggestion? >> > Thanks a lot. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Richard. >> > > Thanks, >> > > Vladimir. >> > > >> > > >> > > On 7/14/06, Alexei Zakharov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Vladimir wrote: >> > >> > (I believe Alexey used it to test. *Or J9 nevertheless*? IMHO >> it needs >> > >> to >> > >> > specify when same discussions start). >> > >> >> > >> I have tried both. And both differ from RI. >> > >> >> > >> Richard wrote: >> > >> > For getDeclaredMethods(), J9 has the same behavior as RI. >> > >> >> > >> Well, there are some nuances nevertheless. I have wrote a small >> test >> > >> (that was close to my orginal test) and ran it on four different >> VMs. >> > >> The test simply does TestBean.class.getDeclaredMethods() and prints >> > >> the resulting array. >> > >> >> > >> TestBean.java: >> > >> class TestBean { >> > >> String methodCalled = null; >> > >> >> > >> public void method(Integer i) { >> > >> methodCalled = "method1"; >> > >> } >> > >> >> > >> public void method(int i) { >> > >> methodCalled = "method2"; >> > >> } >> > >> >> > >> public void method(boolean b) { >> > >> methodCalled = "method3"; >> > >> } >> > >> >> > >> public void method(Boolean b) { >> > >> methodCalled = "method4"; >> > >> } >> > >> >> > >> } >> > >> >> > >> The results: >> > >> RI (Sun 1.5.0_05) >> > >> method int >> > >> method boolean >> > >> method java.lang.Boolean >> > >> method java.lang.Integer >> > >> >> > >> j9 v3 >> > >> method java.lang.Integer >> > >> method int >> > >> method boolean >> > >> method java.lang.Boolean >> > >> >> > >> DLRVM >> > >> method java.lang.Integer >> > >> method int >> > >> method boolean >> > >> method java.lang.Boolean >> > >> >> > >> jrockit-R26.3.0-jdk1.5.0_06 >> > >> method java.lang.Boolean >> > >> method boolean >> > >> method int >> > >> method java.lang.Integer >> > >> >> > >> With Best Regards, >> > >> >> > >> 2006/7/14, Richard Liang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >> > >> > > Alexey Varlamov wrote: >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> 2006/7/14, Richard Liang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >>> Magnusson, Geir wrote: >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- >> > >> > >>>>> From: Alexei Zakharov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:19 AM >> > >> > >>>>> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [classlib] compatibility nuances >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>>> That our "not in any particular >> > >> > >>>>>> order" is different than the "not in any particular order" >> > >> > >>>>>> >> > >> > >>>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> that the RI >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>>> does? I'm not trying to make light of it, but it sounds >> > >> like all >> > >> is >> > >> > >>>>>> correct. >> > >> > >>>>>> >> > >> > >>>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Right, from the spec point of view everything is correct. >> > >> But I'd >> > >> > >>>>> like to say that our particular order differs from RI >> particular >> > >> order >> > >> > >>>>> (and such behavior conforms to spec). My next statement is: >> > >> there >> > >> are >> > >> > >>>>> stupid apps that rely on the particular order >> > >> > >>>>> returned by RI (regardless of spec). I know one already. >> The >> > >> question >> > >> > >>>>> is: should we care or not? >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>> Can you figure out what their order is? If so, I'd use that >> > >> since >> > >> we >> > >> > >>>> are free to do what we want, and if someone does depende >> on this, >> > >> it's >> > >> > >>>> one less change, and it's spec compliant. >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> > >>> As well as I know, the order is what the methods are >> declared in >> > >> java >> > >> > >>> source. (Cannot find any document currently ;-) ) >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >> IIRC, Sun and JRockit behave differently to this matter, >> > >> JRockit's VM >> > >> > >> reports methods in reversed order. Besides, there are 2 APIs: >> > >> > >> getDeclaredMethods() and getMethods() - we should consider >> both >> > >> if we >> > >> > >> really care. And detecting "right" order for the last is >> tedious - >> > >> > >> taking into account variety of heritable methods (declared >> > >> directly, >> > >> > >> inherited from superclass(es), inherited from >> superinterface(s), >> > >> > >> inherited from superinterfaces of superclasses). >> > >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > > What does j9 do? >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > For getDeclaredMethods(), J9 has the same behavior as RI. For >> > >> > getMethods, J9 and RI behave differently. ;-) But it's not >> so hard >> > >> > to summarize RI's rule of method order. Am I wrong? >> > >> > >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > Richard >> > >> > >> I believe we need a bit stronger motivation for scratching >> this >> > >> issue, >> > >> > >> than a blunt testcase - some real-world application. >> > >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > I agree that this isn't a critical issue, but a "nice to have". >> > >> Maybe >> > >> > > we see what J9 does, and follow the majority (if we spend the >> > >> time...)? >> > >> > > >> > >> > > geir >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Richard Liang >> > >> > China Software Development Lab, IBM >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> Alexei Zakharov, >> > >> Intel Middleware Product Division >> > -- >> > Richard Liang >> > China Software Development Lab, IBM >> >> >> -- >> Alexei Zakharov, >> Intel Middleware Product Division >> > > -- Richard Liang China Software Development Lab, IBM --------------------------------------------------------------------- Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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