Andrea,
Yes, that's true. ?Teachers just look at the reading level. ?For example, when 
my daughters were in school, they had to accumulate
so many A.R. points every quarter. ?Say 10 points. ?Each book has a number of 
points assigned to it based on length. ?Most
picture books are 0.5 to 1.0 points. ?Most novels are anywhere from 1.0 to 4.0 
points. ?I think the Harry Potter books are something
like 8 points apiece. ?So if you are a second grader, and have to earn 10 
points, that's essentially 20 picture books. ?:-)
Anyway, to earn those points, kids have to read books at their reading level. 
?So if their reading level is 3.4, then usually it's a one
grade range, they can earn their points by reading books in the 2.8 to 3.8 
range. ?Interest level has absolutely nothing to do with it.
And yes, it's problematic.


Judy


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrea Rapp <anrapp2...@yahoo.com>
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  I've spoken with librarians at a couple of schools which use the program. 
Teachers give students an AR reading level range, based on the child's 
standardized test scores, from which to select books for AR testing and credit. 
?AR does also indicates the "interest level" of the book, which may be quite 
different from the reading level it assigns. ?My understanding is that teachers 
look at the reading level, not the interest level, ?when determining the range 
that students have to adhere to. ?If so, this would be quite problematic. ?
? ?Andrea


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  To all,
  ? ? ?I'm following this discussion with interest as I also use A.R. in my 
synagogue's library as a means
  of trying to improve circulation in our children's library.
  ? ? ?But I think there's a misconception here. A.R. does not assign books a 
"grade" level, but a reading
  level. ?With something like 3.9, the "3" indicates the grade, and the ".9" 
indicates which month of the
  semester they should be at this level (each 1/10 is a month's worth of 
progress). ?So, assuming school?
  starts in September and goes through May, September would be 3.0 and May 
would be 3.9. ?So, for
  example, assigning the book "Freefall" a 3.9 reading level just indicates 
that the vocabulary, etc. is such
  that a 3rd grader at the end of the school year should be able to read the 
words.
  ? ? ?In general, I think A.R. books are leveled too low. ?I've rarely found 
anything about a 6th grade reading
  level. ?Even textbook type materials are generally a 7.0. ?For example, just 
for fun I looked up "Huckleberry
  Finn" which is leveled at 5.4, which based on vocabulary alone seems pretty 
ridiculous to me.
  ? ? ?Content has nothing to do with how they assign reading levels, which of 
course is one of the weaknesses
  of the program. ?"Freefall" is of course inappropriate for a 3rd grader. ?And 
many of our kids read much
  higher than their grade level, so finding books at their appropriate reading 
level but that are content appropriate
  for their age is a whole 'nother enchilada.
  ? ? ?However, the website that I use to find a book's A.R. level 
(www.arbookfind.com) DOES include who the target audience is for
  a given book, using the codes LG (lower grades), MG (middle grades), UG 
(upper grades). ?"Freefall" is assigned 
  a MG+. ?So I'm assuming this would indicate middle school and up, which seems 
appropriate.
  ? ? ?There are certainly many disadvantages to the A.R. program. ?But it can 
be a tool in the toolbox. ?For my own library, and since?
  only the elementary schools in our school district use the A.R. program, I 
only?put A.R. stickers on books that are appropriate for?
  elementary aged readers. ?I don't put A.R. stickers on books?designed for 
older kids (like "Freefall"). ?For one thing it seems demeaning?
  for a 7th grader to check out a book?that technically is at a third grade 
reading level.
  ? ? ?The biggest way the A.R. program has helped me in my job is as a tool to 
help me select reading level appropriate books for
  the Religious School classes. They have independent reading time and also 
"book buddies". ?So if the 2nd grade teacher tells me at
  9:00 a.m. on Sunday morning that they want to have free reading at 9:30 a.m. 
I can pull a bunch of 2nd and 3rd grade reading level
  books in about 5 minutes and not have to look through each book wondering if 
a second grader could read it. ?Getting the teachers
  to give me any kind of lead time pulling stuff for them is a whole other 
conversation! ?:-)
  ? ? ?The other way I "use" A.R. is as projects for the madrichim (post B'nai 
Mitzvah teachers' aides). ?They look up the book and put
  the stickers on. ?And it's a bit subversive. ?If?they're working on putting 
A.R. stickers on the books, half the time they stop to read them.
  :-) ?
   
  ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Judy Petersen
  ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Library Director
  ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Congregation Har Shalom
  ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Fort Collins, CO
  ? ? ?
   
 -----Original Message----- From: Andrea Rapp <anrapp2...@yahoo.com> To: 
suzi48dubin <suzi48du...@gmail.com>; Norm Janoff <cjan...@cox.net>; 
Hasafran <hasaf...@lists.osu.edu> Sent: Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:11 am 
Subject: Re: [ha-Safran] Accelerated Reader        All, I do not "use" 
Accelerated Reader.
  I have reading incentive programs for our religious school kids in grades 1-6.
  Some of these children use Accelerated Reader in their public or day schools 
and want to take out ?books from our library for which they can get credit at 
school. ? ?After several students expressed the wish to know this information, 
I decided to  identify AR books for them--as a service to them and as an 
incentive to have them read these Jewish books. ?They are excited to know that 
I will do this.
  ? ? I'm interested to see that others of you agree with me about the level 
assignments AR uses, and I will not put a label on some of the books like 
Freefall that say it's for 3rd graders. ?That's just absurd and I'm surprised 
that the whatever formula is used to assign levels to such books hasn't been 
improved. ?One would think that AR would have heard from teachers, after all 
the years it's been in use. ?I will report back on how this works out, and 
whether I decide to abandon the whole idea!
  Andrea
   
            From: suzi48dubin <suzi48du...@gmail.com>  To: Norm Janoff 
<cjan...@cox.net>; Andrea Rapp <anrapp2...@yahoo.com>; Hasafran 
<hasaf...@lists.osu.edu>   Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 11:38 PM  
Subject: Re: [ha-Safran] Accelerated Reader   
        ......And that is why I refuse to use AR. Their decisions on what grade 
level is appropriate is just WRONG.
  Suzie Dubin?
  ?
  T-Mobile. America's First Nationwide 4G Network.------ Original message 
------From:?Norm Janoff Date:?1/15/2014 4:33 PMTo:?Andrea 
Rapp;Hasafran;Subject:Re: [ha-Safran] Accelerated Reader   When I worked in the 
public library we had this problem all the time. ?Accelerated Reader doesn't 
seem to take into account the maturlity level of the topic or theme, but only 
the word and syllable counts, vocabulary, etc. ?It's very frustrating. Carol 
Janoff
  Temple Chai
  Phoenix, AZ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 12:32:40 -0800From: 
anrapp2003@yahoo.comTo: hasaf...@lists.osu.eduSubject: [ha-Safran] Accelerated 
Reader  I'm putting the labels on the books, looking up the assigned reading 
levels that AR gives each book. ?Freefall, by Anna Levine, grade level 3.9? 
?Ridiculous. ?I'd give it to kids in 6th or 7th grade at minimum. ?On the other 
hand, The Peddler's Gift/Shnook the Peddler is 5th grade level.
  ???I am really surprised at the level assignments to so many titles. ?
  Andrea Rapp
 
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