Hello Rick, Friday, April 24, 2009, 10:12:42 PM, you wrote:
what you think about JHC? it seems that Timber is close to it > You may wish to look at Timber. It is a Haskell descendant designed for > embedded systems. > Its current default output is C which is then compiled. It is a > very young language, but given the current list of use cases, I am > sure that it will never abandon it's C output model, because most > people in embedded disciplines seem to prefer it. It does, like > Haskell, include a runtime, but it is small, and light. Since it is > targetted towards embedded systems the garbage collector is one that > can be interacted with to guarantee response times on the microsecond level. > > http://timber-lang.org/ > I too write software for time critical applications and multiple > platforms (such as the iPhone). I surveyed over a dozen compilers in > multiple languages, and my search ended with Timber. As I mentioned, > it is very young, it has very little standard library to speak of, but it has > strong possibilities. > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Bulat Ziganshin > <bulat.zigans...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Sam, > > Friday, April 24, 2009, 9:09:43 PM, you wrote: > > well, GHC generates .o files. so you may solve some of your questions. > if you can absolutely ignore performance, you can use so-called > non-registerized compilation what generates ansi-compatible C code > > most Haskell libs are written for ghc, so for other compilers you will > need to write almost self-contained code > >> I need a list of .c and .h files as an end result of the Haskell >> compilation stage. I expect these c files will need to include Haskell >> runtime C code to operate, and therefore have some dependencies in order >> to compile and link. > >> Afaict, GHC as it stands does not allow me to do this, even though it >> presumably generates C in the process of compiling binary objects. > >> Actually having C source as an end result is critical as I need control >> over exactly how the source is compiled and linked. For example: >> - I need to compile to different targets: either a static C lib, exe, >> dll or C++ lib. >> - I need to support multiple compilers. >> - I might want to produce a custom runtime. > >> In short, I'd like to use Haskell as a code-generator. > >> I can't see that this would be unachievable, particularly given it's >> generating C already. Have I missed something? > >> Cheers, >> Sam > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bulat Ziganshin [mailto:bulat.zigans...@gmail.com] >> Sent: 24 April 2009 17:53 >> To: Sam Martin >> Cc: haskell-cafe@haskell.org >> Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] compilation to C, not via-C > >> Hello Sam, > >> Friday, April 24, 2009, 8:36:50 PM, you wrote: > >>> I work in Games middleware, and am very interested in looking at how >>> Haskell could help us. We basically sell C++ libraries. I would like >> to >>> be able to write some areas of our libraries in Haskell, compile the >>> Haskell to C and incorporate that code into a C++ library. > >> well, you can intercept these files. once i wrote simple 4-line >> haskell utility (it may be 20 lines of C++ or so) and compiled it down >> to C. results was 300 lines or so which it's impossible to understand > >> so, if you just need haskell-C++ interaction, you may look into using >> FFI [1,2]. if you believe that you can compile some >> java/ruby/haskellwhatever code down to C++ and incorporate it into >> your function - sorry, they all have too different computing model > >> btw, my own program [3] goes this way - i combine fast C++ and complex >> Haskell code via FFI/dll to produce fast, feature-rich application > > >> [1] http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/GHC/Using_the_FFI >> [2] http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/FFI_cook_book >> [3] http://freearc.org > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bulat mailto:bulat.zigans...@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe > -- Best regards, Bulat mailto:bulat.zigans...@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe