Sebastian, It helps if you think of John as having already won in this discussion, since he succeeded in getting a lengthy high-noise emotional reaction from us. :-)
Cheers, Greg On Dec 4, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Sebastian Sylvan wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:09 PM, John D. Earle <johndea...@cox.net> wrote: > See "[Haskell-cafe] Optimization with Strings ?" for background. > > Don Stewart wrote, "the guarantees of purity the type system provides are > extremely > useful for verification purposes". My response to this is in theory. This is > what caught my attention initially, but the language lacks polish and does > not appear to be going in a direction where it shows signs where it will > self-correct. It may even be beyond repair. I care about others and I don't > want people to be misled. > > I am already well aware of the numbers. They do not impress me. I have > written on this already. I have given Haskell the benefit of the doubt and > said, What's wrong with being uncompromising? There is something wrong with > it, if it has taken you off the path of truth. This is not uncompromising. > This is something else. It is called fanaticism and this is the opinion that > I have come to after due consideration. > > If you are going to argue your case, be constructive. Tell me how the type > system is not flawed and how the Haskell language is rigorous. What proof do > you have of this? Explain to me how Haskell has been merely uncompromising in > its pursuit of perfection and did not manage to step over the threshold into > fanaticism. Please remain on topic and on point. > > I honestly don't understand what your beef is. Could you explain what you > mean with some specifics? In what way does Haskell lack polish? What makes > you think it's not going in a direction where it will self correct? > What's the "path of truth" and in what way is Haskell not on it? > > I would very much appreciate if you could try to explain what you mean using > specific examples. I read the other thread and the post of yours didn't > really seem to make much sense to me there either. > > -- > Sebastian Sylvan > _______________________________________________ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
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