Andrew Coppin wrote:
OK, so I sat down today and tried this, but I can't figure out how.

There are various examples of type-level arithmetic around the place. For example,

http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Type_arithmetic

(This is THE first hit on Google, by the way. Haskell is apparently THAT popular!) But this does type arithmetic using functional dependencies; what I'm trying to figure out is how to do that with associated types.

Any hints?

Several people have now replied to this, both on and off-list. But all the replies use type families, not associated types.

Now type families are something I don't yet comprehend. (Perhaps the replies will help... I haven't studied them yet.) What I understand is that ATs allow you to write things like

 class Container c where
   type Element c :: *
   ...

And now you can explicitly talk about the kind of element a container can hold, rather than relying on the type constructor having a particular kind or something. So the above works for containers that can hold *anything* (such as lists), containers which can only hold *one* thing (e.g., ByteString), and containers which can hold only certain things (e.g., Set).

...which is great. But I can't see a way to use this for type arithmetic. Possibly because I don't have a dramatically solid mental model of exactly how it works. You'd *think* that something like

 class Add x y where
   type Sum x y :: *

 instance Add x y => Add (Succ x) y where
   type Sum (Succ x) y = Succ (Sum x y)

ought to work, but apparently not.

As to what type families - type declarations outside of a class - end up meaning, I haven't the vaguest idea. The Wiki page makes it sound increadibly complicated...

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