On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Ben Lippmeier wrote:

> Some would say that non-termination is a computational effect, and I can 
> argue either way depending on the day of the week.

*shrug*  I figure that whether you call _|_ a value is like whether you accept 
the Axiom of Choice:  it is a situational decision that depends on what you are 
trying to learn more about.

> Of course, the history books show that monads were invented *after* it was 
> decided that Haskell would be a lazy language. Talk about selection bias.

True, but I am not quite sure how that is relevant to _|_...

Cheers,
Greg

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