OK. I am totally confused here. Why "Couldn't match expected type `Jobs k e a' with actual type `M.Map k0 b0'"....
9|data JobInfo a e = (Exception e) => 10| JobInfo { jobId :: ThreadId 11| , result :: MVar (Either e a) } 12| 13|type Jobs k e a = (Ord k, Exception e) => 14| M.Map k (JobInfo e a) 15| 16|type JobArgs k a = (Ord k) => 17| M.Map k a 21| 22|start :: (Ord k, Exception e) => JobArgs k a -> (a -> IO b) -> IO (Jobs k e a) 23|start args worker = do 24| arg <- newEmptyMVar 25| Map.mapM (\a -> do 26| putMVar arg a 27| result <- newEmptyMVar 28| tId <- forkIO $ do 29| arg_ <- takeMVar arg 30| result_ <- try $ worker arg_ 31| putMVar result result_ 32| return $ JobInfo tId result 33| ) args On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Magicloud Magiclouds <magicloud.magiclo...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think I need to think this through.... > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic > <ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 14 June 2012 14:20, Magicloud Magiclouds >> <magicloud.magiclo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> OK. I think I understand a little. >>> I use Job here just wants to simplify the code. And since I provide >>> the function as library, I cannot decide what exact type k is. What >>> should I do? >> >> Do you know what the type of `a'? If so: >> >> type Job k = Map k String >> >> Otherwise... do you even need a type alias? >> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Arlen Cuss <a...@len.me> wrote: >>>> (resending to café, turns out I wasn't subbed from this address.) >>>> >>>> Hi Magicloud, >>>> This is correct; because you've hidden the type-variables away by >>>> universally quantifying them, there's no more level of specificity you can >>>> get back *out* of them than just "some kind of Map" (Job = M.Map k b, >>>> where k ≠ k0, b ≠ b0). >>>> >>>> If you have a Job type which can store *any* kind of Map (forall k a. Job >>>> (Map k a)), then that means you could have a Job with a Map Int Bool, and >>>> a Job with a Map String (Float -> Float), and they'd both have the same >>>> type "Job". You can't do anything with the values within, because you're >>>> being too permissive about what a Job is. >>>> >>>> You may want "data Job k a = Job (Map k a)", *or* if you do actually use >>>> one kind of Map only, then why not "data Job = Job (Map Int String)" >>>> (substituting your real types for Int and String). In this case, you could >>>> also consider using newtype ("newtype Job = Job { getJob :: Map Int String >>>> }") to provide the guarantee that you're getting a Job (and not any Map >>>> Int String) without performance loss. >>>> >>>> Let me know if I've been more confusing than helpful; >>>> >>>> Arlen >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, 14 June 2012 at 1:16 PM, Magicloud Magiclouds wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi there, >>>>> Thanks for the reply. To be clear, all I want is to "avoid having to >>>>> type type variables all over the place". What should I do? My original >>>>> code with RankNTypes and ImpredicativeTypes does not work.... >>>>> >>>>> The "type Job = forall k a. M.Map k a" works now. But function uses >>>>> it does not. Compiler complains about "Couldn't match expected type >>>>> `Job' with actual type `M.Map k0 b0'". >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Daniel Peebles <pumpkin...@gmail.com >>>>> (mailto:pumpkin...@gmail.com)> wrote: >>>>> That doesn't require existential quantification, but it'll need Rank-2 >>>>> typesif you ever do anything with Job. Unfortunately, a universally >>>>> quantifiedJob like what you wrote (or what Magicloud seems to want) is >>>>> only inhabitedby the empty Map. >>>>> > >>>>> An existentially quantified Job, as you might get with >>>>> > >>>>> data Job = forall k a. Job (Map k a) >>>>> > >>>>> does let you wrap up any Map containing anything in it, but >>>>> unfortunatelythe only thing you can do with that map afterwards is ask >>>>> for "structural"properties about it, like whether it's empty or how many >>>>> elements it has init. You could ask to enumerate the elements in it, but >>>>> you wouldn't be ableto touch any of them because you wouldn't know what >>>>> their types were. >>>>> > >>>>> So I'm not really sure how to interpret the question. Was the goal to >>>>> have aheterogeneous Map, maybe? Or just to avoid having to type type >>>>> variables allover the place? Both of those are possible but require a bit >>>>> moresophistication with types. >>>>> > >>>>> -Dan >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Ismael Figueroa >>>>> Palet<ifiguer...@gmail.com (mailto:ifiguer...@gmail.com)> wrote: >>>>> > > >>>>> Do you want to hide the specific types of the job? Presumably to >>>>> thendefine a type JobList = [Job] ?You can do that with the >>>>> ExistentialQuantification extension. >>>>> > > >>>>> type Job = forall k a. Map k atype JobList = [Job] >>>>> > > >>>>> ??Note you can't unpack the types k a once you have hidden them. But >>>>> thetypechecker can use it to ensure some static property.Also you could >>>>> use unsafeCoerce to do some casts, but *only if you are*sure* that things >>>>> will go OK*. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 2012/6/13 Magicloud Magiclouds <magicloud.magiclo...@gmail.com >>>>> (mailto:magicloud.magiclo...@gmail.com)> >>>>> > > > >>>>> Hi,I've forgotten this.This is OK:type Job k a = Map k aAnd this is >>>>> OK:{-# LANGUAGE RankNTypes #-} -- or LiberalTypeSynonyms?type Job = >>>>> forall a. forall k. Map k a >>>>> > > > >>>>> Then how to write it like this?type Job = Map k a--竹密岂妨流水过山高哪阻野云飞 >>>>> > > > >>>>> And for G+, please use magiclouds#gmail.com (http://gmail.com). >>>>> > > > >>>>> _______________________________________________Haskell-Cafe mailing >>>>> listhaskell-c...@haskell.org (mailto:Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org) >>>>> > > > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> --Ismael >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> _______________________________________________Haskell-Cafe mailing >>>>> listhaskell-c...@haskell.org (mailto:Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org) >>>>> > > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> 竹密岂妨流水过 >>>>> 山高哪阻野云飞 >>>>> >>>>> And for G+, please use magiclouds#gmail.com (http://gmail.com). >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Haskell-Cafe mailing list >>>>> Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org (mailto:Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org) >>>>> http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Haskell-Cafe mailing list >>>> Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org >>>> http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> 竹密岂妨流水过 >>> 山高哪阻野云飞 >>> >>> And for G+, please use magiclouds#gmail.com. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Haskell-Cafe mailing list >>> Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org >>> http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe >> >> >> >> -- >> Ivan Lazar Miljenovic >> ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com >> http://IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com > > > > -- > 竹密岂妨流水过 > 山高哪阻野云飞 > > And for G+, please use magiclouds#gmail.com. -- 竹密岂妨流水过 山高哪阻野云飞 And for G+, please use magiclouds#gmail.com. _______________________________________________ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe