Hi all, Jan has my full support -- I'm just one of these beginners, meaning I have tried several attempts to get started with Haskell and gave up after fighting some days with cabal. Currently I give stack a shot and have no other system GHC installed. This works very nicely for me and I have not encountered any problems.
I would be really happy with seeing this approach supported by the whole ecosystem. Cheers, Friedrich On 29.08.2016 16:43, Jan Gerlinger wrote: > > Hi all, > > I believe haskell.org and its download section should be directed to > total beginners and they should not be confronted with multiple choices. > > As someone who has personally seen people willing to learn Haskell give > up, because they were burnt by the global package database, I think any > global persistent state should be avoided in the tools recommended. This > especially concerns all packages installed globally by default by HP. > Cabal's default workflow (currently and probably for a long time in the > future) also installs packages globally and is thus harmful for > beginners, as they are not able to resolve conflicts and errors. > > This leaves me with Stack or a Minimal HP stripped down to only consist > of GHC and Stack. Since a global GHC is not needed when using Stack and > telling people to use `stack ghci` instead of `ghci` is absolutely no > problem in my experience, I would go with Stack. > > To summarise: > > * haskell.org download section should cater to total beginners. > > * Giving multiple options is actively harmful, there should only be one. > > * Minimal HP is the wrong choice for this option. Stack is. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Haskell-community mailing list > Haskell-community@haskell.org > http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-community >
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