Don't forget Helium (recently announced)
http://www.cs.uu.nl/~afie/helium/index.html
Also Manuel Chakravarty teaches Haskell to hordes.
Simon
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Hal Daume III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: 04 February 2003 00:02
| To: Haskell Mailing List
| Subject: [OT] Teaching Haskell in High School
|
| Hi all,
|
| Before getting in to this, let me preface my question(s) with a note
that
| I have checked through the Haskell in Education web page and have
found
| various links off there of interest (and I've googled, etc. In
| short: I've done my homework).
|
| That said, I've been in rather close correspondence with my
math/computer
| science teacher from high school. When I first took CS there, they
taught
| Pascal (a year early they had been teaching Scheme). They switched
over
| to VB (alas) recently and have been teaching that for a few years now.
|
| The teacher really wants to get away from VB, but is having a somewhat
| difficult time deciding what to go to. The two most promising options
are
| Haskell and Java.
|
| Aside from hype, etc., the primary advantage to Java is that the
Advanced
| Placement (AP) tests are in Java. For those of you unfamiliar with
these,
| high school students can take AP tests and then (typically) skip out
of
| first semester college courses. They're essentially proficiency
exams.
|
| The way the computer science curriculum is set up at my old school is
| essentially as either (a) an elective or (b) a replacement for senior
year
| math. The students in the course are usually about 2/3 juniors (16
year
| olds) taking it as an elective and 1/3 seniors who want to get our of
| senior year math :). Either way, they've both taken differential
| calculus, algebra, etc. Note, however, that high school math in the
| states is very rudimentary when it comes to things like "induction"
and
| "proofs" and things of this sort.
|
| Due to the fact that CS is essentially an alternative math course, I
think
| it would be interesting to teach Haskell. It would enable the
instruction
| of things the students wouldn't have come across in their ordinary
math
| studies, etc.
|
| However, I'm also well aware that Haskell is very difficult to learn
(and,
| I'd imagine, to teach). Given that this would in large part be a
first
| language for them and that they won't have a college-level math
| background, do you think it would be too much to attempt to teach
Haskell
| at this level, and stick with Java?
|
| I'm really interested in any comments/experience/etc. that people have
| that might assist the teacher (and, to some extent, me) make this
| decision.
|
| Thanks in advance!
|
| - Hal
|
|
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