> > Dear Berkeley and/or AT&T or whoever owned UNIX the week the decision > > was made to stop background jobs that wrote to stderr, I would like to > > render a hearty "FUCK YOU".
> % stty -tostop Yeh, I'd forgotten that, because I normally use this instead: http://www.scarydevil.com/~peter/sw/detach.shar Which solves a lot of other random hatefulness and should work on everything >from Version 6 through Dead Rat and Interix. > Advanced Unix Programming book[1] was devoted to interacting with the > terminal driver and its idiosyncracies... Hate? I nearly laughed. That's because the terminal driver was the previous playground of the "I have a better idea of how to do menus" jerks who made X11 toolkits such a maze of weird behaviour and exceptions, and who now delight in finding new ways to abuse CSS and DHTML... Does hates-software extend to hates-people-who-make-software-hateful?