The contrib packages doesn't get as much love as core HBase, so they
tend to be under performant and/or reliable and/or maintained and/or
etc. In this case the issue doesn't seem that bad since it could just
use a HTablePool, but using IndexedTables will definitely be slower
than straight insert since it writes to 2 tables (the main table and
the index).

J-D

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Chris Tarnas <c...@email.com> wrote:
> It appears that for multiple simulations loads using the IndexTables probably 
> not the best choice?
>
> -chris
>
> On Apr 30, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Jean-Daniel Cryans wrote:
>
>> Yeah more handlers won't do it here since there's tons of calls
>> waiting on a single synchronized method, I guess the IndexedRegion
>> should use a pool of HTables instead of a single one in order to
>> improve indexation throughput.
>>
>> J-D
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Chris Tarnas <c...@email.com> wrote:
>>> Here is the thread dump:
>>>
>>> I cranked up the handlers to 300 just in case and ran 40 mappers that 
>>> loaded data via thrift. Each node runs its own thrift server. I saw an 
>>> average of 18 rows/sec/mapper with no node using more than 10% CPU and no 
>>> IO wait. It seems no matter how many mappers I throw the total number of 
>>> rows/sec doesn't go much above 700 rows/second total, which seems very, 
>>> very slow to me.
>>>
>>> Here is the thread dump from a node:
>>>
>>> http://pastebin.com/U3eLRdMV
>>>
>>> I do see quite a bit of waiting and some blocking in there, not sure how 
>>> exactly to interpret it all though.
>>>
>>> thanks for any help!
>>> -chris
>>>
>>> On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Ryan Rawson wrote:
>>>
>>>> One thing to check is at the peak of your load, run jstack on one of
>>>> the regionservers, and look at the handler threads - if all of them
>>>> are doing something you might be running into handler contention.
>>>>
>>>> it is basically ultimately IO bound.
>>>>
>>>> -ryan
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Chris Tarnas <c...@email.com> wrote:
>>>>> They are all at 100, but none of the regionservers are loaded - most are
>>>>> less than 20% CPU. Is this all network latency?
>>>>>
>>>>> -chris
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Ryan Rawson <ryano...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Every insert on an indexed would require at the very least an RPC to a
>>>>>> different regionserver.  If the regionservers are busy, your request
>>>>>> could wait in the queue for a moment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One param to tune would be the handler thread count.  Set it to 100 at
>>>>>> least.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Chris Tarnas <c...@email.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just finished some testing with JDK 1.6 u17 - so far no performance
>>>>>>> improvements with just changing that. Disabling LZO compression did 
>>>>>>> gain a
>>>>>>> little bit (up to about 30/sec from 25/sec per thread). Turning of 
>>>>>>> indexes
>>>>>>> helped the most - that brought me up to 115/sec @ 2875 total rows a 
>>>>>>> second.
>>>>>>> A single perl/thrift process can load at over 350 rows/sec so its not
>>>>>>> scaling as well as I would have expected, even without the indexes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are the transactional indexes that costly? What is the bottleneck there?
>>>>>>> CPU utilization and network packets went up when I disabled the 
>>>>>>> indexes, I
>>>>>>> don't think those are the bottlenecks for the indexes. I was even able 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> add another 15 insert process (total of 40) and only lost about 10% on 
>>>>>>> a per
>>>>>>> process throughput. I probably could go even higher, none of the nodes 
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> above CPU 60% utilization and IO wait was at most 3.5%.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Each rowkey is unique, so there should not be any blocking on the row
>>>>>>> locks. I'll do more indexed tests tomorrow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>> -chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2010, at 12:18 AM, Todd Lipcon wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Definitely smells like JDK 1.6.0_18. Downgrade that back to 16 or 17 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> should be good to go. _18 is a botched release if I ever saw one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Todd
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Chris Tarnas <c...@email.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Stack,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for looking. I checked the ganglia charts, no server was at 
>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>> than ~20% CPU utilization at any time during the load test and swap 
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> never used. Network traffic was light - just running a count through
>>>>>>>>> hbase
>>>>>>>>> shell generates a much higher use. One the server hosting meta
>>>>>>>>> specifically,
>>>>>>>>> it was at about 15-20% CPU, and IO wait never went above 3%, was
>>>>>>>>> usually
>>>>>>>>> down at near 0.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The load also died with a thrift timeout on every single node (each
>>>>>>>>> node
>>>>>>>>> connecting to localhost for its thrift server), it looks like a
>>>>>>>>> datanode
>>>>>>>>> just died and caused every thrift connection to timeout - I'll have to
>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>> that limit to handle a node death.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Checking logs this appears in the logs of the region server hosting
>>>>>>>>> meta,
>>>>>>>>> looks like the dead datanode causing this error:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010-04-29 01:01:38,948 WARN org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.DFSClient:
>>>>>>>>> DFSOutputStream ResponseProcessor exception  for block
>>>>>>>>> blk_508630839844593817_11180java.io.IOException: Bad response 1 for
>>>>>>>>> block
>>>>>>>>> blk_508630839844593817_11180 from datanode 10.195.150.255:50010
>>>>>>>>>      at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.DFSClient$DFSOutputStream$ResponseProcessor.run(DFSClient.java:2423)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The regionserver log on teh dead node, 10.195.150.255 has some more
>>>>>>>>> errors
>>>>>>>>> in it:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://pastebin.com/EFH9jz0w
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I found this in the .out file on the datanode:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (16.0-b13 mixed mode
>>>>>>>>> linux-amd64 )
>>>>>>>>> # Problematic frame:
>>>>>>>>> # V  [libjvm.so+0x62263c]
>>>>>>>>> #
>>>>>>>>> # An error report file with more information is saved as:
>>>>>>>>> # /usr/local/hadoop-0.20.1/hs_err_pid1364.log
>>>>>>>>> #
>>>>>>>>> # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
>>>>>>>>> #   http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport/crash.jsp
>>>>>>>>> #
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is not a single error in the datanode's log though. Also of note
>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>> this happened well into the test, so the node dying cause the load to
>>>>>>>>> abort
>>>>>>>>> but not the prior poor performance. Looking through the mailing list 
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> looks like java 1.6.0_18 has a bad rep so I'll update the AMI 
>>>>>>>>> (although
>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>> using the same JVM on other servers in the office w/o issue and decent
>>>>>>>>> single node performance and never dying...).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any help!
>>>>>>>>> -chris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Stack wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is load on the server hosting meta like?  Higher than others?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2010, at 8:42 PM, Chris Tarnas <c...@email.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi JG,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Speed is now down to 18 rows/sec/table per process.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is a regionserver log that is serving two of the regions:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://pastebin.com/Hx5se0hz
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the GC Log from the same server:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://pastebin.com/ChrRvxCx
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the master log:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://pastebin.com/L1Kn66qU
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The thrift server logs have nothing in them in the same time period.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -chris
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Jonathan Gray wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a really significant slowdown.  I can't think of anything
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> obvious that would cause that in your setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any chance of some regionserver and master logs from the time it 
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> going slow?  Is there any activity in the logs of the regionservers
>>>>>>>>> hosting
>>>>>>>>> the regions of the table being written to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> JG
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Christopher Tarnas [mailto:c...@tarnas.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tarnas
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:27 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: hbase-user@hadoop.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: EC2 + Thrift inserts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, thanks to all the HBase developers for producing this, it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> great project and I'm glad to be able to use it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm looking for some help and hints here with insert performance
>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm doing some benchmarking, testing how I can scale up using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HBase,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not really looking at raw speed. The testing is happening on EC2,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew's scripts (thanks - those were very helpful) to set them up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a slightly customized version of the default AMIs (added my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> application modules). I'm using HBase 20.3 and Hadoop 20.1. I've
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> looked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the tips in the Wiki and it looks like Andrew's scripts are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>>>> setup that way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm inserting into HBase from a hadoop streaming job that runs 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> perl
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> uses the thrift gateway. I'm also using the Transactional tables 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that alone could be the case, but from what I can tell I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so. LZO compression is also enabled for the column families (much
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the data is highly compressible). My cluster has 7 nodes, 5
>>>>>>>>>>>>> regionservers, 1 master and 1 zookeeper. The regionservers and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> master
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are c1.xlarges. Each regionserver has the tasktrackers that runs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hadoop streaming jobs, and regionserver also runs its own thrift
>>>>>>>>>>>>> server. Each mapper that does the load talks to the localhost's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thrift
>>>>>>>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Row keys a fixed string + an incremental number then the order
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bytes are reversed, so runA123 becomes 321Anur. I though of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> murmur hash but was worried about collisions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I add more insert jobs, each jobs throughput goes down. Way
>>>>>>>>>>>>> down. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> went from about 200 row/sec/table per job with one job to about 24
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rows/sec/table per job with 25 running jobs. The servers are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mostly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> idle. I'm loading into two tables, one has several indexes and I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> loading into three column families, the other has no indexes and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> column family. Both tables only currently have two region each.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The regionserver that serves the indexed table's regions is using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> most CPU but is 87% idle. The other servers are all at ~90% idle.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is no IO wait. the perl processes are barely ticking over. Java on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> most "loaded" server is using about 50-60% of one CPU.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Normally when I do load in a pseudo-distrbuted hbase (my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> development
>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform) perl's speed is the limiting factor and uses about 85% 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CPU. In this cluster they are using only 5-10% of a CPU as they 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting on thrift (hbase). When I run only 1 process on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cluster,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> perl uses much more of a CPU, maybe 70%.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any tips or help in getting the speed/scalability up would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if you need any other info.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I send this - it looks like the main table has split again and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being served by three regionservers.. My performance is going up a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (now 35 rows/sec/table per processes), but still seems like I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using the full potential of even the limited EC2 system, no IO 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lots of idle CPU.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> many thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Todd Lipcon
>>>>>>>> Software Engineer, Cloudera
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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