Efim,

Can you simply add a scalar integer attribute that keeps track of the lower
bound index value of the slower dimension?  Just update this attribute
every time you write to the data set, or at least every time the lower
bound goes lower.  This would be an application level solution, rather than
something provided by the library.

This resembles a minimal version of Gerd's suggestion #1.

--Dave


On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Efim Dyadkin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sorry I should have specified what "first" is. I have a 2d dataset with
> slower dimension sparse and unlimited,
>
> and with fast dimension non-sparse and of fixed length. Typically for my
> data, information can be written first
>
> in the "middle" of the slower dimension of the dataset and then grow in
> any direction (to the left and to the right)
>
> incrementally. I need to keep track of current bounding box in order to
> only access populated part of the dataset.
>
> The upper boundary of the slower dimension is basically an extent of the
> dataset so I do not need to store it
>
> on my own. As to lower boundary I hoped I could find it by getting access
> to a first available chunk with
>
>  a smallest index along slower dimension.
>
> I think exposing at least a boolean grid of existing chunks could be
> helpful for sparse data handling.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Efim
>
>
> *From:* Hdf-forum <[email protected]> on behalf of
> Gerd Heber <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:20 AM
> *To:* HDF Users Discussion List
> *Subject:* [**EXTERNAL**] Re: [Hdf-forum] first non-fill-value in the
> sparse chunked dataset
>
>
> The “first non-fill-value” in which order? (chronological, C-order, …)
>
>
>
> Short answer: No chance.
>
>
>
> Slightly longer: (Apart from H5DOwrite_chunk…) There is currently no API
> that
>
> gives you direct control over/introspection into chunks. You can control
> certain
>
> aspects of chunk allocation time and policy (via dataset creation
> properties),
>
> but the rest is pretty opaque and a side-effect of H5D[read,write].
>
> I think you have at least two options:
>
>
>
> 1. Create an auxiliary structure where you maintain that type of log
> information.
>
>    (This is dangerous/illusionary because you’ll be making assumptions
> about how the
>
>     HDF5 library writes/updates chunks, and what happens in the underlying
> storage.)
>
>
>
> 2. Create a proper sparse structure and don’t use chunking to mimic one.
>
>    (You might still struggle with the definition of ‘first.’)
>
>
>
> G.
>
>
>
>  *From:* Hdf-forum [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> Behalf Of *Efim Dyadkin
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:04 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [Hdf-forum] first non-fill-value in the sparse chunked dataset
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am using a sparse chunked dataset with a certain fill value. I’d like to
> find a first non-fill-value element in the dataset. Can I narrow down my
> search to a first available chunk? How can I do it?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Efim Dyadkin
>
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