> Sorry,didn't get you...do you mean, once release voting is
> processed and upload by RM..?

Yes, that is what I meant. I don’t want us to make more mandatory work for the 
release manager because the job is hard enough already.


> On Mar 17, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Brahma Reddy Battula <bra...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Sorry,didn't get you...do you mean, once release voting is processed and
> upload by RM..?
> 
> FYI. There is docker image for ARM also which support all scripts
> (createrelease, start-build-env.sh, etc ).
> 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-16797
> 
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:59 PM Arpit Agarwal
> <aagar...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Can ARM binaries be provided after the fact? We cannot increase the RM’s
>> burden by asking them to generate an extra set of binaries.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 17, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Brahma Reddy Battula <bra...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> + Dev mailing list.
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: Brahma Reddy Battula <bra...@apache.org>
>>> Date: Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Hadoop 3.3.0 Release include ARM binary
>>> To: junping_du <junping...@apache.org>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> thanks junping for your reply.
>>> 
>>> bq.      I think most of us in Hadoop community doesn't want to have
>> biased
>>> on ARM or any other platforms.
>>> 
>>> Yes, release voting will be based on the source code.AFAIK,Binary we are
>>> providing for user to easy to download and verify.
>>> 
>>> bq.     The only thing I try to understand is how much complexity get
>>> involved for our RM work. Does that potentially become a blocker for
>> future
>>> releases? And how we can get rid of this risk.
>>> 
>>> As I mentioned earlier, RM need to access the ARM machine(it will be
>>> donated and current qbt also using one ARM machine) and build tar using
>> the
>>> keys. As it can be common machine, RM can delete his keys once release
>>> approved.
>>> Can be sorted out as I mentioned earlier.(For accessing the ARM machine)
>>> 
>>> bq.       If you can list the concrete work that RM need to do extra for
>>> ARM release, that would help us to better understand.
>>> 
>>> I can write and update for future reference.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:41 AM 俊平堵 <junping...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Brahma,
>>>>    I think most of us in Hadoop community doesn't want to have biased
>> on
>>>> ARM or any other platforms.
>>>>    The only thing I try to understand is how much complexity get
>>>> involved for our RM work. Does that potentially become a blocker for
>> future
>>>> releases? And how we can get rid of this risk.
>>>>     If you can list the concrete work that RM need to do extra for ARM
>>>> release, that would help us to better understand.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Junping
>>>> 
>>>> Akira Ajisaka <aajis...@apache.org> 于2020年3月13日周五 上午12:34写道:
>>>> 
>>>>> If you can provide ARM release for future releases, I'm fine with that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Akira
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:41 PM Brahma Reddy Battula <
>> bra...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks Akira.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Currently only problem is dedicated ARM for future RM.This i want to
>>>>> sort
>>>>>> out like below,if you've some other,please let me know.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> i) Single machine and share cred to future RM ( as we can delete keys
>>>>> once
>>>>>> release is over).
>>>>>> ii) Creating the jenkins project ( may be we need to discuss in the
>>>>>> board..)
>>>>>> iii) I can provide ARM release for future releases.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 5:14 PM Akira Ajisaka <aajis...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Brahma,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think we cannot do any of your proposed actions.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#owned-controlled-hardware
>>>>>>>> Strictly speaking, releases must be verified on hardware owned and
>>>>>>> controlled by the committer. That means hardware the committer has
>>>>>> physical
>>>>>>> possession and control of and exclusively full
>>>>> administrative/superuser
>>>>>>> access to. That's because only such hardware is qualified to hold a
>>>>> PGP
>>>>>>> private key, and the release should be verified on the machine the
>>>>>> private
>>>>>>> key lives on or on a machine as trusted as that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/dev/release-distribution.html#sigs-and-sums
>>>>>>>> Private keys MUST NOT be stored on any ASF machine. Likewise,
>>>>>> signatures
>>>>>>> for releases MUST NOT be created on ASF machines.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We need to have dedicated physical ARM machines for each release
>>>>> manager,
>>>>>>> and now it is not feasible.
>>>>>>> If you provide an unofficial ARM binary release in some repository,
>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>> okay.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Akira
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 7:57 PM Brahma Reddy Battula <
>>>>> bra...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As currently trunk will support ARM based compilation and qbt(1) is
>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>> from several months with quite stable, hence planning to propose ARM
>>>>>>>> binary
>>>>>>>> this time.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ( Note : As we'll know voting will be based on the source,so this
>>>>> will
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> issue.)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> *Proposed Change:*
>>>>>>>> Currently in downloads we are keeping only x86 binary(2),Can we keep
>>>>> ARM
>>>>>>>> binary also.?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> *Actions:*
>>>>>>>> a) *Dedicated* *Machine*:
>>>>>>>>      i) Dedicated ARM machine will be donated which I confirmed
>>>>>>>>      ii) Or can use jenkins ARM machine itself which is currently
>>>>> used
>>>>>>>> for ARM
>>>>>>>> b) *Automate Release:* How about having one release project in
>>>>>> jenkins..?
>>>>>>>> So that future RM's just trigger the jenkin project.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please let me know your thoughts on this.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> https://builds.apache.org/view/H-L/view/Hadoop/job/Hadoop-qbt-linux-ARM-trunk/
>>>>>>>> 2.https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --Brahma Reddy Battula
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --Brahma Reddy Battula
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --Brahma Reddy Battula
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --Brahma Reddy Battula
>> 
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