+1 On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 6:01 AM Ayush Saxena <ayush...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 > > -Ayush > > > On 27-Aug-2020, at 6:24 PM, Steve Loughran <ste...@cloudera.com.invalid> > wrote: > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > are there any Hadoop branch-2 releases planned, ever? If so I'll need to > backport my s3a directory compatibility patch to whatever is still live. > > > > > >> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 06:55, Wei-Chiu Chuang <weic...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> Bump up this thread after 6 months. > >> > >> Is anyone still interested in the 2.9 release line? Or are we good to > start > >> the EOL process? The 2.9.2 was released in Nov 2018. > >> > >> I'd really like to see the community to converge to fewer release lines > and > >> make more frequent releases in each line. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Weichiu > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 5:47 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <weic...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> > >> > I think that's a great suggestion. > >> > Currently, we make 1 minor release per year, and within each minor > release > >> > we bring up 1 thousand to 2 thousand commits in it compared with the > >> > previous one. > >> > I can totally understand it is a big bite for users to swallow. > Having a > >> > more frequent release cycle, plus LTS and non-LTS releases should > help with > >> > this. (Of course we will need to make the release preparation much > easier, > >> > which is currently a pain) > >> > > >> > I am happy to discuss the release model further in the dev ML. LTS > v.s. > >> > non-LTS is one suggestion. > >> > > >> > Another similar issue: In the past Hadoop strived to > >> > maintain compatibility. However, this is no longer sustainable as > more CVEs > >> > coming from our dependencies: netty, jetty, jackson ... etc. > >> > In many cases, updating the dependencies brings breaking changes. More > >> > recently, especially in Hadoop 3.x, I started to make the effort to > update > >> > dependencies much more frequently. How do users feel about this > change? > >> > > >> > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 7:58 AM Igor Dvorzhak <i...@google.com.invalid> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> Maybe Hadoop will benefit from adopting a similar release and support > >> >> strategy as Java? I.e. designate some releases as LTS and support > them for > >> >> 2 (?) years (it seems that 2.7.x branch was de-facto LTS), other > non-LTS > >> >> releases will be supported for 6 months (or until next release). This > >> >> should allow to reduce maintenance cost of non-LTS release and > provide > >> >> conservative users desired stability by allowing them to wait for > new LTS > >> >> release and upgrading to it. > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 1:26 AM Rupert Mazzucco < > rupert.mazzu...@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> After recently jumping from 2.7.7 to 2.10 without issue myself, I > vote > >> >>> for keeping only the 2.10 line. > >> >>> It would seem all other 2.x branches can upgrade to a 2.10.x easily > if > >> >>> they feel like upgrading at all, > >> >>> unlike a jump to 3.x, which may require more planning. > >> >>> > >> >>> I also vote for having only one main 3.x branch. Why are there > 3.1.x and > >> >>> 3.2.x seemingly competing, > >> >>> and now 3.3.x? For a community that does not have the resources to > >> >>> manage multiple release lines, > >> >>> you guys sure like to multiply release lines a lot. > >> >>> > >> >>> Cheers > >> >>> Rupert > >> >>> > >> >>> Am Mi., 4. März 2020 um 19:40 Uhr schrieb Wei-Chiu Chuang > >> >>> <weic...@cloudera.com.invalid>: > >> >>> > >> >>>> Forwarding the discussion thread from the dev mailing lists to the > user > >> >>>> mailing lists. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I'd like to get an idea of how many users are still on Hadoop 2.9. > >> >>>> Please share your thoughts. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 6:30 PM Sree Vaddi > >> >>>> <sree_at_ch...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> +1 > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 5:12 PM, Wei-Chiu Chuang< > weic...@apache.org> > >> >>>>> wrote: Hi, > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Following the discussion to end branch-2.8, I want to start a > >> >>>>> discussion > >> >>>>> around what's next with branch-2.9. I am hesitant to use the word > "end > >> >>>>> of > >> >>>>> life" but consider these facts: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> * 2.9.0 was released Dec 17, 2017. > >> >>>>> * 2.9.2, the last 2.9.x release, went out Nov 19 2018, which is > more > >> >>>>> than > >> >>>>> 15 months ago. > >> >>>>> * no one seems to be interested in being the release manager for > 2.9.3. > >> >>>>> * Most if not all of the active Hadoop contributors are using > Hadoop > >> >>>>> 2.10 > >> >>>>> or Hadoop 3.x. > >> >>>>> * We as a community do not have the cycle to manage multiple > release > >> >>>>> line, > >> >>>>> especially since Hadoop 3.3.0 is coming out soon. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> It is perhaps the time to gradually reduce our footprint in Hadoop > >> >>>>> 2.x, and > >> >>>>> encourage people to upgrade to Hadoop 3.x > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Thoughts? > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > -- John Zhuge
