@Wei-Chiu Chuang <weic...@apache.org> looks this is not concluded yet...
Can we move forward..?

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 11:09 PM Brahma Reddy Battula <bra...@apache.org>
wrote:

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> I agree with Ahmed Hussein…Jira should not be used for number generation..
>
> We can always revisit the jira to see useful discussion at one place…
>
> @wei-chu, +1 on proposal for cleaning the PR’s..
>
>
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 at 9:15 PM, epa...@apache.org <epa...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>>  > I usually use PR comments to discuss about the patch submitted.
>> My concern is that still leaves multiple places to look in order to get a
>> full picture of an issue.
>> -Eric
>>
>>     On Wednesday, July 14, 2021, 7:07:30 PM CDT, Masatake Iwasaki <
>> iwasak...@oss.nttdata.co.jp> wrote:
>>
>>  > - recently, JIRA became some sort of a "number generator" with
>> insufficient
>> > description/details as the
>> >    developers and the reviewers spending more time discussing in the PR.
>>
>> JIRA issues contain useful information in the fields.
>> We are leveraging them in development and release process.
>>
>> * https://yetus.apache.org/documentation/0.13.0/releasedocmaker/
>> *
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=12336122
>>
>> I usually use PR comments to discuss about the patch submitted.
>> JIRA comments are used for background or design discussion before and
>> after submitting PR.
>> There would be no problem having no comment in minor/trivial JIRA issues.
>>
>>
>> On 2021/07/14 23:50, Ahmed Hussein wrote:
>> > Do you consider migrating Jira issues to Github issues?
>> >
>> > I am a little bit concerned that there are some committers who still
>> prefer
>> > Jira-precommits over GitHub PR
>> > (P.S. I am not a committer).
>> >
>> > Their point is that Github-PR confuses them with discussions/comments
>> being
>> > in two places rather than one.
>> >
>> > Personally, I found several Github-PRs comments discussing the validity
>> of
>> > the feature/bug.
>> > As a result:
>> > - recently, JIRA became some sort of a "number generator" with
>> insufficient
>> > description/details as the
>> >    developers and the reviewers spending more time discussing in the PR.
>> > - the relation between a single Jira and Github-PR is 1-to-M. In order
>> to
>> > find related discussions, the user may
>> >    need to visit every PR (that may include closed ones)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:46 AM Steve Loughran
>> <ste...@cloudera.com.invalid>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> not sure about stale PR closing; when you've a patch which is still
>> pending
>> >> review it's not that fun to have it closed.
>> >>
>> >> maybe better to have review sessions. I recall many, many years ago
>> >> attempts to try and catch up with all outstanding patch reviews.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 at 03:00, Akira Ajisaka <aajis...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Thank you Wei-Chiu for starting the discussion,
>> >>>
>> >>>> 3. JIRA security
>> >>> I'm +1 to use private JIRA issues to handle vulnerabilities.
>> >>>
>> >>>> 5. Doc update
>> >>> +1, I build the document daily and it helps me fixing documents:
>> >>> https://aajisaka.github.io/hadoop-document/ It's great if the latest
>> >>> document is built and published by the Apache Hadoop community.
>> >>>
>> >>> My idea related to GitHub PR:
>> >>> 1. Disable the precommit jobs for JIRA, always use GitHub PR. It saves
>> >>> costs to configure and debug the precommit jobs.
>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-17798
>> >>> 2. Improve the pull request template for the contributors
>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-17799
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Akira
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 12:35 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <weic...@apache.org>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I work on multiple projects and learned a bunch from those
>> >> projects.There
>> >>>> are nice add-ons that help with productivity. There are things we can
>> >> do
>> >>> to
>> >>>> help us manage the project better.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1. Add new issue types.
>> >>>> We can add "Epic" jira type to organize a set of related jiras. This
>> >>> could
>> >>>> be easier to manage than using a regular JIRA and call it "umbrella".
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2. GitHub Actions
>> >>>> I am seeing more projects moving to GitHub Actions for precommits. We
>> >>> don't
>> >>>> necessarily need to migrate off Jenkins, but there are nice add-ons
>> >> that
>> >>>> can perform static analysis, catching potential issues. For example,
>> >>> Ozone
>> >>>> adds SonarQube to post-commit, and exports the report to SonarCloud.
>> >>> Other
>> >>>> add-ons are available to scan for docker images, vulnerabilities
>> scans.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 3. JIRA security
>> >>>> It is possible to set up security level (public/private) in JIRA.
>> This
>> >>> can
>> >>>> be used to track vulnerability issues and be made only visible to
>> >>>> committers. Example: INFRA-15258
>> >>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15258>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 4. New JIRA fields
>> >>>> It's possible to add new fields. For example, we can add a "Reviewer"
>> >>>> field, which could help improve the attention to issues.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 5. Doc update
>> >>>> It is possible to set up automation such that the doc on the Hadoop
>> >>> website
>> >>>> is refreshed for every commit, providing the latest doc to the
>> public.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 6. Webhook
>> >>>> It's possible to set up webhook such that every commit in GitHub
>> sends
>> >> a
>> >>>> notification to the ASF slack. It can be used for other kinds of
>> >>>> automation. Sky's the limit.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thoughts? What else can do we?
>> >>>
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