Hi all,

Although validating cross platform builds at pre-commit
would be the most effective approach, I understand the
huge disadvantage caused by the slowdown. The best
way to tackle this would be to enable parallel builds for
the different platforms. I had given it a shot about a year
ago[1], it didn't go well and ran into all sorts of random
errors. I think we should make the parallel builds run on
different agents as opposed to starting the builds parallelly
on the same agent (which is what I had done earlier).

So, I'll settle down to integrating the full suite of platform
builds into the nightly builds. Could anyone please point
me to the Jenkins job for this?

[1] = https://github.com/apache/hadoop/pull/3166

Thanks,
--Gautham

On Fri, 6 May 2022 at 21:04, Ayush Saxena <ayush...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From functional point of view it does makes sense to validate all the
> platforms as part of the builds, but the Pre commits builds taking time is
> now no longer a small things, In past one year or may be two, we have
> already increased it more than twice as compared to what it was before, If
> someone has a change in HDFS, which includes both hdfs-client &
> hadoop-hdfs, it takes more than 5 hours, which long back was around 2 hours.
> With the current state, I don't think we should just go and add these
> extra overheads. Having them as part of the nightly builds does makes sense
> for now.
>
> In future if we feel there is a strong need for this and we start to see
> very frequent failures in some other platforms and we are left with no
> other option but to integrate it in our pre-commit jobs, we can explore
> having these build phases running in parallel, along with trying other
> phases also to run in parallel like compilation/javadoc builds of JDK-8 &
> JDK-11 can run in parallel and may be explore other opportunities as well
> to compensate for this time.
>
> For now lets just integrate it our nightly builds only and circle back
> again here in future if the need be.
>
> -Ayush
>
> On Fri, 6 May 2022 at 20:44, Wei-Chiu Chuang <weic...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Running builds for all platforms for each and every PR seems too
>> excessive.
>>
>> How about doing all platform builds in the nightly jobs?
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 8:02 AM Steve Loughran <ste...@cloudera.com.invalid
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm not enthusiastic here as it not only makes the builds slower, it
>> > reduces the #of builds we can through a day
>> >
>> > one thing I am wondering is could we remove java8 support on some
>> branches?
>> >
>> > make branch 3.3.2.x (i.e the 3.3.3 release) the last java 8 build, and
>> this
>> > summers branch-3.3 release (which I'd rebadge 3.4) would ship as java 11
>> > only.
>> > that would cut buld and test time for those trunk PRs in half...after
>> which
>> > the preospect of building on more than one platform becomes more viable.
>> >
>> > On Thu, 5 May 2022 at 15:34, Gautham Banasandra <gaur...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Hadoop devs,
>> > >
>> > > Last week, there was a Hadoop build failure on Debian 10 caused by
>> > > https://github.com/apache/hadoop/pull/3988. In
>> dev-support/jenkins.sh,
>> > > there's the capability to build and test Hadoop across the supported
>> > > platforms. Currently, we're limiting this only for those PRs having
>> only
>> > > C/C++ changes[1], since C/C++ changes are more likely to cause
>> > > cross-platform build issues and bypassing the full platform build for
>> non
>> > > C/C++ PRs would save a great deal of CI time. However, the build
>> failure
>> > > caused by PR #3988 motivates me to enable the capability to build and
>> > > test Hadoop for all the supported platforms for ALL the PRs.
>> > >
>> > > While this may cause longer CI run duration for each PR, it would
>> > > immensely minimize the risk of breaking Hadoop across platforms and
>> > > saves us a lot of debugging time. Kindly post your opinion regarding
>> this
>> > > and I'll move to enable this capability for all PRs if the response is
>> > > sufficiently positive.
>> > >
>> > > [1] =
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/apache/hadoop/blob/bccf2f3ef4c8f09f010656f9061a4e323daf132b/dev-support/jenkins.sh#L97-L103
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > --Gautham
>> > >
>> >
>>
>

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