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Uma Maheswara Rao G commented on HDFS-10285:
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[~anu], Thank you for the comment. We provided API for applications, on demand 
from application only it will tart triggering the data movements. It will not 
run automatically for all files at all. Unlike balancer, Storage policy 
requires all storage reports as well. Most of the required information will be 
available at Namenode and can check the mismatched blocks and trigger the data 
movement to Datanodes.
I understand ur concern that keep on adding more features to Namenode and 
making it heavy. Thats one of the point we wanted keep this feature as 
configurable, not like core inbuilt replication monitor. Additionally, we have 
dynamic stopping of this feature. Users can disable this on the fly with out 
restarting namenodes. Example if some applications have enough control to 
collect the file names which requires data movement between storages, then SPS 
can be switched off and start mover tool out side of namenode. 

> Storage Policy Satisfier in Namenode
> ------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HDFS-10285
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-10285
>             Project: Hadoop HDFS
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: datanode, namenode
>    Affects Versions: HDFS-10285
>            Reporter: Uma Maheswara Rao G
>            Assignee: Uma Maheswara Rao G
>         Attachments: HDFS-10285-consolidated-merge-patch-00.patch, 
> HDFS-10285-consolidated-merge-patch-01.patch, 
> HDFS-10285-consolidated-merge-patch-02.patch, 
> HDFS-10285-consolidated-merge-patch-03.patch, 
> HDFS-SPS-TestReport-20170708.pdf, 
> Storage-Policy-Satisfier-in-HDFS-June-20-2017.pdf, 
> Storage-Policy-Satisfier-in-HDFS-May10.pdf, 
> Storage-Policy-Satisfier-in-HDFS-Oct-26-2017.pdf
>
>
> Heterogeneous storage in HDFS introduced the concept of storage policy. These 
> policies can be set on directory/file to specify the user preference, where 
> to store the physical block. When user set the storage policy before writing 
> data, then the blocks could take advantage of storage policy preferences and 
> stores physical block accordingly. 
> If user set the storage policy after writing and completing the file, then 
> the blocks would have been written with default storage policy (nothing but 
> DISK). User has to run the ‘Mover tool’ explicitly by specifying all such 
> file names as a list. In some distributed system scenarios (ex: HBase) it 
> would be difficult to collect all the files and run the tool as different 
> nodes can write files separately and file can have different paths.
> Another scenarios is, when user rename the files from one effected storage 
> policy file (inherited policy from parent directory) to another storage 
> policy effected directory, it will not copy inherited storage policy from 
> source. So it will take effect from destination file/dir parent storage 
> policy. This rename operation is just a metadata change in Namenode. The 
> physical blocks still remain with source storage policy.
> So, Tracking all such business logic based file names could be difficult for 
> admins from distributed nodes(ex: region servers) and running the Mover tool. 
> Here the proposal is to provide an API from Namenode itself for trigger the 
> storage policy satisfaction. A Daemon thread inside Namenode should track 
> such calls and process to DN as movement commands. 
> Will post the detailed design thoughts document soon. 



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