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Eric Sirianni commented on HDFS-5318: ------------------------------------- bq. 1. Block is finalized, r/w replica is lost, r/o replica is available. In this case the existing NN replication mechanisms will cause an extra replica to be created Isn't this case equivalent to the case where the R/W replica is offline in general (i.e. not just for pipeline recovery)? bq. q. what happens if a client attempts to append before the replication happens? Independent of how replicas are counted, whenever a R/W replica is offline, appends will not be possible (in the current implementation) until a new R/W replica is created (via inter-datanode replication from a R/O replica). Are you proposing a solution to this (ability to create an append pipeline from only R/O replicas)? bq. 4. Client should be able to bootstrap a write pipeline with read-only replicas. Not sure I fully understand here. Is this how you envision solving the append problem when R/W replica is offline? > Pluggable interface for replica counting > ---------------------------------------- > > Key: HDFS-5318 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-5318 > Project: Hadoop HDFS > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: namenode > Affects Versions: 2.4.0 > Reporter: Eric Sirianni > Attachments: HDFS-5318.patch, hdfs-5318.pdf > > > There are several use cases for using shared-storage for datanode block > storage in an HDFS environment (storing cold blocks on a NAS device, Amazon > S3, etc.). > With shared-storage, there is a distinction between: > # a distinct physical copy of a block > # an access-path to that block via a datanode. > A single 'replication count' metric cannot accurately capture both aspects. > However, for most of the current uses of 'replication count' in the Namenode, > the "number of physical copies" aspect seems to be the appropriate semantic. > I propose altering the replication counting algorithm in the Namenode to > accurately infer distinct physical copies in a shared storage environment. > With HDFS-5115, a {{StorageID}} is a UUID. I propose associating some minor > additional semantics to the {{StorageID}} - namely that multiple datanodes > attaching to the same physical shared storage pool should report the same > {{StorageID}} for that pool. A minor modification would be required in the > DataNode to enable the generation of {{StorageID}} s to be pluggable behind > the {{FsDatasetSpi}} interface. > With those semantics in place, the number of physical copies of a block in a > shared storage environment can be calculated as the number of _distinct_ > {{StorageID}} s associated with that block. > Consider the following combinations for two {{(DataNode ID, Storage ID)}} > pairs {{(DN_A, S_A) (DN_B, S_B)}} for a given block B: > * {{DN_A != DN_B && S_A != S_B}} - *different* access paths to *different* > physical replicas (i.e. the traditional HDFS case with local disks) > ** → Block B has {{ReplicationCount == 2}} > * {{DN_A != DN_B && S_A == S_B}} - *different* access paths to the *same* > physical replica (e.g. HDFS datanodes mounting the same NAS share) > ** → Block B has {{ReplicationCount == 1}} > For example, if block B has the following location tuples: > * {{DN_1, STORAGE_A}} > * {{DN_2, STORAGE_A}} > * {{DN_3, STORAGE_B}} > * {{DN_4, STORAGE_B}}, > the effect of this proposed change would be to calculate the replication > factor in the namenode as *2* instead of *4*. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.1.5#6160)