On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 02:17 -0500, William L. Jarrold wrote: > On Mon, 9 May 2005, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > > I changed it to "Goal Topics". Is that more suggestive? > > Probably yes. Schank and Abelson refer to "Goal Themes." Maybe that > is what you mean?
That's a good question. Can you spare me a copy of Schank and Abelson so I find out? ;-) > Maybe there should be a fixed set of goal topics for them to chose from? > I dunno what research question you are asking. I'm working on a description of the research question. More later. > > In the Jack & Jill story, the only goal topic is "a pale of water". > > why not "to fetch a pale of water." I guess it could be "fetching a pale of water". I use sentence templates: $agent wants something about $goal_topic. $agent is indifferent about $goal_topic. $agent wants to avoid something about $goal_topic. But also see my explanation below ... > after, there are hundreds of > thousands of pales of water in the world at any time instant. This > basic fact about the world does not make Jack and Jill happy. For > them, the goal state was that Jack and Jill were playing the agent > role in a fetching of a pale of water event. Uhm, more like: > Or maybe the goal is > that they possess a pale of water. Fetching is a plan put in to > action to achieve that goal. > > Goal topic is a very fuzzy notion. > > To argue the other side, why isn't the goal topic water, or a pale or > a liquid or a container or an artifact or...I could go on. The point of the goal-topic is to name a particular goal. The exact name doesn't matter so long as the referent goal is distinguished from other possible goals. If your dissertation KM model was more consistent than I could point at a specific slot which corresponds to goal-topic. As it is, I consider all of these to be goal-topics: the informationSource of Watching the vehicle of RidingSomewhere the objectObtained of GettingSomethingForSomeone the objectConsumed of EatingOrDrinkingEvent > > My goal type study is only concerned with "goal formation and > > expression". The kind of stuff in your dissertation falls under "goal > > matching and evaluation." The "introduction" category is just catch-all > > for random suppositions. > > Well what is goal formation? Is it how did Jack and Jill come to want to > fetch a pale of water or what? Good point. Maybe I'll just call it "goal expression". The part of a story where agents express goals. For example: James wants a pie. Judy doesn't want a glass of water. -- If you are an American then support http://fairtax.org (Permanently replace 50,000+ pages of tax law with about 200 pages.)
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