p.s.
The guidlines for romanization of words of Hebrew-Aramaic origin that appear in
Ladino works and retain their originai spellign in the ALA/LC romaniztion table
for Ladino is:
Words of Hebrew-Aramaic origin usually retain their traditional spellings in
Ladino. Such words are romanized according to the ALA/LC Hebrew romanization
table.
I would think that it is useful to follow this practice for German in Hebrew
characters unless you have vocalization present.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Heidi G Lerner" <ler...@stanford.edu>
To: "v freedman" <v.freed...@ucl.ac.uk>
Cc: "heb-naco" <heb-naco@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2010 7:47:22 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [ha-Safran]: Cataloguing Judaeo-German
Dear Vanessa,
I will attempt to respond to the best of my knowledge to your query below. I am
cc'ing the Heb-NACO list because that list includes the most active community
in the U.S/Canada of Hebraica catalogers who adhere to AACR2rev., ALA/LC
romanization tables ... [et al.].
The answer to your first question is that we would use the MARC language code
for German [ger] and include a 546 note that something like " In German [in
Hebrew characters]."
That being said, there has been no "official" statement on how to handle the
vocalization but I am including the text of some guielines that were sent in an
e-mail to the Heb-NACO group by Joan Biella (LC) in 1998 for romanizing
languages other than Hebrew that are written in Hebrwew script. This was
written as a response to a query re Ladino (before the establishment of an
ALA/LC romaniztaion table) but I think that they would apply to works writteh
in German in Hebrew characters as well. 1998:
In romanizing languages other than Hebrew which are written in the Hebrew
script, LC practice is always to romanize the consonants as Hebrew and
represent the vowels as much as possible (given the limitations of the
Hebrew script) like those of the language being romanized. Thus, we
romanize the surname tet-vav-lamed-yod-dalet-alef-nun-vav as Toledano, not
Tolidano. A convenient way of defining a "consonant" is as a character
that appears when the text is unvocalized, and "he" meets this criterion.
So in LC romanization of Ladino, he is romanized as h. The CSB is a
pretty good guide to LC practice :-).
Joan
I am sure that other Hebraica catalogers have thoughts as well on this issue.
Sincerely, Heidi Lerner
p.s. In case you have not seen it, there is a document at the Hebrew Naco
Funnel website that offers suggestions on how to distinguish Yiddish texts from
those in Hebrew characters.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vanessa Freedman" <v.freed...@ucl.ac.uk>
To: hasaf...@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2010 8:54:51 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [ha-Safran]: Cataloguing Judaeo-German
Dear Safranim
Are there any guidelines for cataloguing materials in Judaeo-German (ie
German in Hebrew characters)? In particular, which MARC language code do you
use? Do you Romanize as if it were Yiddish? What about Hebrew words? The
particular work I'm cataloguing at the moment is Frenk's Mahaneh Yisra'el
(National Library of Israel catalogue system no 2157265).
I tried a search of Cataloger's Desktop and came up with various discussion
from the AJL R&S Cataloging Committee, but nothing definitive.
Many thanks
Vanessa Freedman
Hebrew & Jewish Studies Librarian
UCL Library Services
University College London
Gower Street
London WC1E 6BT
Tel (Mon, Thurs, Fri): +44 (0) 20 7679 2598 (Internal ext. 32598)
Tel (Tues and Weds): +44 (0) 20 7679 5163 (Internal ext. 25163)
Fax: +44 (0) 20 7679 7373
E-mail: v.freed...@ucl.ac.uk
Website: www.ucl.ac.uk/library
**Please remember the environment and only print this if necessary**
---
Messages and opinions expressed on Hasafran are those of the individual author
and are not necessarily endorsed by the Association of Jewish Libraries (AJL)
===========================================================
Submissions for Ha-Safran, send to: hasaf...@osu.edu
SUBscribing, SIGNOFF commands send to: Listproc @ lists.acs.ohio-state.edu
Questions, problems, complaints, compliments;-) send to: galron.1 @ osu.edu
Ha-Safran Archives:
Current:
http://www.mail-archive.com/hasafran%40lists.acs.ohio-state.edu/maillist.html
History:
http://www.mail-archive.com/hasafran%40lists.acs.ohio-state.edu/history.html
AJL HomePage http://www.JewishLibraries.org
--
Heidi G. Lerner
Hebraica/Judaica Cataloger
Metadata Development Unit
Stanford University Libraries
Stanford, CA 94305-6004
e-mail: ler...@stanford.edu
ph: 650-725-9953
fax: 650-725-1120
--
Heidi G. Lerner
Hebraica/Judaica Cataloger
Metadata Development Unit
Stanford University Libraries
Stanford, CA 94305-6004
e-mail: ler...@stanford.edu
ph: 650-725-9953
fax: 650-725-1120
