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Heidi G. Lerner Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica Metadata Dept. Stanford University Libraries Stanford, CA 94305-6004 ph: 650-725-9953 fax: 650-725-1120 e-mail: ler...@stanford.edu ________________________________ From: Robert M. TALBOTT <rtalb...@library.berkeley.edu> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:09 PM To: Heidi G Lerner Cc: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] compilation treatment in MARC Hi Heidi: I'm glad I asked. I was unaware that this particular slide show existed (or if I was aware, I've forgotten). Anyhow, slide 33 it is. Disturbance in the Force: resolved. Cheers Bob On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Heidi G Lerner <ler...@stanford.edu<mailto:ler...@stanford.edu>> wrote: Hi Bob, This is one of those non-intuitive situations that we often come upon with religious works accompanied by significant commentaries. I always start by looking at the document " RDA Special Topics: Compilations & Collaborations<https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiopZqiqcvNAhUS6WMKHaAUASYQFggfMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.loc.gov%2Faba%2Frda%2Fsource%2Fspecial_topics_compilations.ppt&usg=AFQjCNHtuRvmfXo18b_cA1J9CxE-LajDJA&bvm=bv.125801520,bs.2,d.cGc>" slides 33-37 Much as it seems off I think that what you have is the situation found on slide 33 which is what you have presented us. Your other alternative if you feel very strongly is to make a note with the publisher's comments; enter it under the heading for psalms: 130 Bible.|pPsalms and add an access point for 700 1 Adari, Refaelm,|ewriter of added commentary. If anyone has other thoughts I am happy to hear. Best, Heidi Heidi G. Lerner Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica Metadata Dept. Stanford University Libraries Stanford, CA 94305-6004 ph: 650-725-9953<tel:650-725-9953> fax: 650-725-1120<tel:650-725-1120> e-mail: ler...@stanford.edu<mailto:ler...@stanford.edu> ________________________________ From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu>> on behalf of Robert M. TALBOTT <rtalb...@library.berkeley.edu<mailto:rtalb...@library.berkeley.edu>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:59 AM To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel Subject: [Heb-NACO] compilation treatment in MARC Folks: I have a work in front of me that is causing me RDA problems: Iyunim be-sifrut mizmore Tehilim / Dr. Refael Adari. The book is a compilation of two parts: the full text of Psalms and Dr. Adari's commentary, which has no special name aside from Iyunim be-sifrut mizmore Tehilim. Since it's a compilation, the structure is: 24500 XXXXXXXXXX 7XX12$Container of (work):$aXXXXXXXX 7XX12$Container of (work):$aXXXXXXXX For the piece in hand, 24500 Iyunim be-sifrut mizmore Tehilim .... 70012$iContainer of (work):$aAdari, Refael. $t Iyunim be-sifrut mizmore Tehilim 73002$iContainer of (work):$aBible. $p Psalms. etc. The problem for me is that in its presentation, the publisher is clearly emphasizing the commentary as the major feature of the book even though it's one of two constituent parts. 1) Is this truly a compilation or is there a way of reading the rules (aside from a less-than-full encoding level) to allow for a more intuitive/AACR2-esque approach, e.g. 10010Adari, Refael 24510Iyunim be-sifrut mizmore Tehilim .... 73002$iContainer of (work):$aBible. $p Psalms. etc. ? 2) "70012$iContainer of (work):$aAdari, Refael. $t Iyunim be-sifrut mizmore Tehilim" makes me uneasy, mostly because I think it'll cause confusion among both patrons and catalogers. Am I correct in my formulation? Is there a better way of doing this? Thanks for your help. Bob -- Bob Talbott Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger UC Berkeley 250 Moffitt Berkeley, CA 94720 ??? ?? ?? ??? ??? ???? ???????? _______________________________________________ Heb-naco mailing list Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco Heb-naco Info Page - lists.osu.edu<https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco> lists.osu.edu<http://lists.osu.edu> To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the Heb-naco Archives. Using Heb-naco: To post a message to all the list members, send ... -- Bob Talbott Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger UC Berkeley 250 Moffitt Berkeley, CA 94720 ??? ?? ?? ??? ??? ???? ????????
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