Mea culpa - I was reading e-mail too quickly... Yes, as it says in RDA LC-PCC PS 24.6.1.3
PCC practice: Record numerals in series numbering in the authorized access point as Arabic numerals. Abbreviate terms used as part of the numbering as instructed in RDA Appendix B[https://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png]<https://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdaappb>. Substitute one form of abbreviation with the prescribed abbreviation. If Appendix B does not provide an abbreviation in the language of the series, base the caption for the authorized access point on the form found on the resource; prefer the abbreviated form if the resource has both an abbreviated and spelled-out form. Heidi G. Lerner Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica Metadata Dept. Stanford University Libraries Stanford, CA 94305-6004 ph: 650-725-9953 fax: 650-725-1120 e-mail: ler...@stanford.edu ________________________________ From: Robert M. TALBOTT <rtalb...@library.berkeley.edu> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:35 PM To: Heidi G Lerner <ler...@stanford.edu> Cc: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] Fwd: RDA Toolkit appendix B.10 (Hebrew and Yiddish abbreviations) It's helpful to know that one has the option of using judgement in a 670, but I was talking about 642s in SARs. B On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:49 PM Heidi G Lerner <ler...@stanford.edu<mailto:ler...@stanford.edu>> wrote: Hi Bob, Certainly abbreviations may be used in 670s in LCNAF; it is cataloger's discrection on whether or not to use them (unless you are transcribing data cited from a resource; see NACO Participant's manual It says "abbreviations MAY" be used on p. 74, 79, 105 Best, Heidi Heidi G. Lerner Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica Metadata Dept. Stanford University Libraries Stanford, CA 94305-6004 ph: 650-725-9953 fax: 650-725-1120 e-mail: ler...@stanford.edu<mailto:ler...@stanford.edu> ________________________________ From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu>> on behalf of Robert M. TALBOTT via Heb-naco <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:51 PM To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>> Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] Fwd: RDA Toolkit appendix B.10 (Hebrew and Yiddish abbreviations) Folks: So far as I know, abbreviations are still used for 642s in authorities. Correct me if I'm wrong. Bob On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 2:13 PM Rita Lifton via Heb-naco <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>> wrote: As they appear in the resource. Rita Lifton Cataloger Library of The Jewish Theological Seminary From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces+rilifton=jtsa....@lists.osu.edu<mailto:jtsa....@lists.osu.edu>> On Behalf Of Neil Manel Frau-Cortes via Heb-naco Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:11 AM To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>> Subject: [Heb-NACO] Fwd: RDA Toolkit appendix B.10 (Hebrew and Yiddish abbreviations) Dear all, See below. What do you think about Ahava's question? My impression is that we are not replacing terms on a resource by abbreviations under RDA (certainly not at Maryland). Thanks, Neil ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Ahava Cohen <ahava.co...@nli.org.il<mailto:ahava.co...@nli.org.il>> Date: Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 1:59 PM Subject: RDA Toolkit appendix B.10 (Hebrew and Yiddish abbreviations) To: a...@loc.gov<mailto:a...@loc.gov> <a...@loc.gov<mailto:a...@loc.gov>>, Neil Manel Frau-Cortes <nf...@umd.edu<mailto:nf...@umd.edu>> Shalom, As the RDA Steering Committee finishes up work on 3R, they've been discussing the appendices in the current Toolkit. I've asked, and been granted permission, to have the largest Hebraica cataloging policy bodies (AJL, LC, and NLI) make a recommendation about the fate of the Hebrew and Yiddish abbreviation appendix. The Latin script abbreviations are all for recorded elements. So the question about our appendix is: Are the abbreviations specified used in recorded elements or do they belong to transcribed elements? If we're talking recorded elements – things that you consistently change from what's on the resource (as we used to change edition statements to ed. or מהד'), the appendix needs to stay. If all the terms are found in transcribed elements, those we copy from the resource, then the list more properly belongs as a resource in the AJL documentation than as a mandate in the Toolkit. In Israel we don't use any of these terms in recorded elements. Here's the list: [cid:173a16d944e4cff311] Do you know of cataloging agencies which would replace the term used on a resource with the abbreviation when creating a record? Kol tuv, - Ahava [cid:173a16d944f5b006a2]<http://www.nli.org.il/> Dr. Ahava Cohen |Head Hebrew Catalogue Department Mobile: +972-54-549-3644 Tel.: +972-74-733-6231 The National Library of Israel, Jerusalem ahava.co...@nli.org.il<mailto:ahava.co...@nli.org.il> | www.nli.org.il<http://web.nli.org.il/sites/NLI/English/Pages/default.aspx> [cid:173a16d944f692e333]<http://www.facebook.com/NationalLibraryIsrael> [cid:173a16d944f7745b44] <http://www.youtube.com/user/NLI2010/featured> [cid:173a16d944f855d355] <http://instagram.com/nli_israel> [cid:173a16d944f9374b66] <http://www.flickr.com/photos/64126959@N03/collections/> -- Neil M. Frau-Cortes, Ph.D. (he, him, his) Senior Catalog Librarian Supervisor for Non-Roman and Special Collections Cataloging University of Maryland 2200 McKeldin Library College Park, MD 20742 Phone (301) 405-9337 nf...@umd.edu<http://nf...@umd.edu> ORCID ID: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-1881-1405 _______________________________________________ Heb-naco mailing list Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco -- Bob Talbott Hebraica cataloger UC Berkeley 250 Moffitt Berkeley, CA 94720 If they're too small for court, they're probably shorts. If they're long and advanced, you're looking at pants -- Bob Talbott Hebraica cataloger UC Berkeley 250 Moffitt Berkeley, CA 94720 If they're too small for court, they're probably shorts. If they're long and advanced, you're looking at pants
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