All,

For those of you who are experimenting with BIBFRAME or are interested, please 
see below for discussion of bi-directionality of script in bib records.  This 
would be a real problem for our community.

Caroline

Caroline R. Miller
Team Leader, Discovery Team
UCLA Library Resource Acquisitions and Metadata Services
2400 Life Sciences Building
621 Charles E Young Drive South
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Date:    Thu, 2 Mar 2023 17:57:36 +0000
From:    "Riley, Charles" <[email protected]>
Subject: Internationalization of BIBFRAME: support for directionality of 
scripts?

Hi,

A question about the support for directionality of scripts, especially in 
bibliographic statements where there is a mixture of left-to-right (LTR) and 
right-to-left (RTL) scripts, has come up.  My understanding is that Unicode 
formatting characters to override directionality within a statement will not be 
allowed.  The BIBFRAME page at LC about non-Latin scripts 
(https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://guides.loc.gov/bibframe-manual/non-latin-scripts__;!!KGKeukY!1dD16USuLXx1jycZ4HeKfwOwX477Snn674Sq-I9zc42nEr-vkhU9bOjCAKFBSmPnksNeTYCqPcqBrSR8ddUp1bMeXeHy0fKBDGgHpeg$
 
<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fguides.loc.gov*2Fbibframe-manual*2Fnon-latin-scripts&data=05*7C01*7Ccharles.riley*40yale.edu*7C35394d1fa9554c52c2a008db1b452225*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638133755961861143*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C3000*7C*7C*7C&sdata=WkEQAvAG8X3PCJQ1Uz9AbHU3iA*2Bma4TJj3IjB7KZ5bY*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJQ!!KGKeukY!1dD16USuLXx1jycZ4HeKfwOwX477Snn674Sq-I9zc42nEr-vkhU9bOjCAKFBSmPnksNeTYCqPcqBrSR8ddUp1bMeXeHy0fKBze1ZDow$
 >) does not address this issue.  One possible means of improving support in 
these use cases might be through RDF 1.2, but that's still in the process of 
being developed.  An example of the kind of record I'm thinking of is here: 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.worldcat.org/title/1158882278__;!!KGKeukY!1dD16USuLXx1jycZ4HeKfwOwX477Snn674Sq-I9zc42nEr-vkhU9bOjCAKFBSmPnksNeTYCqPcqBrSR8ddUp1bMeXeHy0fKBYNaKEVk$
 

Best,
Charles Riley


Charles L. Riley
Catalog Librarian for African Languages
Yale University Library

[email protected]
(203)432-7566
344 Winchester Ave., Cube B140DY
New Haven, CT  06511
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Date:    Fri, 3 Mar 2023 12:19:06 +1100
From:    Andrew Cunningham <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Internationalization of BIBFRAME: support for directionality of 
scripts?

Probably better examples where text direction affects rendering:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.worldcat.org/title/4770230995__;!!KGKeukY!1dD16USuLXx1jycZ4HeKfwOwX477Snn674Sq-I9zc42nEr-vkhU9bOjCAKFBSmPnksNeTYCqPcqBrSR8ddUp1bMeXeHy0fKBMl8hLy8$
 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.worldcat.org/title/4770246800__;!!KGKeukY!1dD16USuLXx1jycZ4HeKfwOwX477Snn674Sq-I9zc42nEr-vkhU9bOjCAKFBSmPnksNeTYCqPcqBrSR8ddUp1bMeXeHy0fKBoSLrxBo$
 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.worldcat.org/title/4771293512__;!!KGKeukY!1dD16USuLXx1jycZ4HeKfwOwX477Snn674Sq-I9zc42nEr-vkhU9bOjCAKFBSmPnksNeTYCqPcqBrSR8ddUp1bMeXeHy0fKB6P8-nYE$
 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.worldcat.org/title/4770502105__;!!KGKeukY!1dD16USuLXx1jycZ4HeKfwOwX477Snn674Sq-I9zc42nEr-vkhU9bOjCAKFBSmPnksNeTYCqPcqBrSR8ddUp1bMeXeHy0fKBAPXldi0$
 

On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 at 05:00, Riley, Charles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> A question about the support for directionality of scripts, especially in 
> bibliographic statements where there is a mixture of left-to-right (LTR) and 
> right-to-left (RTL) scripts, has come up.  My understanding is that Unicode 
> formatting characters to override directionality within a statement will not 
> be allowed.  The BIBFRAME page at LC about non-Latin scripts 
> (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://guides.loc.gov/bibframe-manual/non-latin-scripts__;!!KGKeukY!1dD16USuLXx1jycZ4HeKfwOwX477Snn674Sq-I9zc42nEr-vkhU9bOjCAKFBSmPnksNeTYCqPcqBrSR8ddUp1bMeXeHy0fKBDGgHpeg$
>  ) does not address this issue.  One possible means of improving support in 
> these use cases might be through RDF 1.2, but that’s still in the process of 
> being developed.  An example of the kind of record I’m thinking of is here: 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.worldcat.org/title/1158882278__;!!KGKeukY!1dD16USuLXx1jycZ4HeKfwOwX477Snn674Sq-I9zc42nEr-vkhU9bOjCAKFBSmPnksNeTYCqPcqBrSR8ddUp1bMeXeHy0fKBYNaKEVk$
>  
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Charles Riley
>
>
>
>
>
> Charles L. Riley
>
> Catalog Librarian for African Languages
>
> Yale University Library
>
>
>
> [email protected]
>
> (203)432-7566
>
> 344 Winchester Ave., Cube B140DY
>
> New Haven, CT  06511
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://orcid.org/0000-0002-8177-3149__;!!KGKeukY!1dD16USuLXx1jycZ4HeKfwOwX477Snn674Sq-I9zc42nEr-vkhU9bOjCAKFBSmPnksNeTYCqPcqBrSR8ddUp1bMeXeHy0fKBOJzwTEM$
>  
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/no2016138954__;!!KGKeukY!1dD16USuLXx1jycZ4HeKfwOwX477Snn674Sq-I9zc42nEr-vkhU9bOjCAKFBSmPnksNeTYCqPcqBrSR8ddUp1bMeXeHy0fKBCOEE9vk$
>  
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.viaf.org/viaf/119147904994779090104/*Riley,_Charles,_1972-__;Iw!!KGKeukY!1dD16USuLXx1jycZ4HeKfwOwX477Snn674Sq-I9zc42nEr-vkhU9bOjCAKFBSmPnksNeTYCqPcqBrSR8ddUp1bMeXeHy0fKBQlN7szU$
>  
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://isni.org/isni/0000000497690465__;!!KGKeukY!1dD16USuLXx1jycZ4HeKfwOwX477Snn674Sq-I9zc42nEr-vkhU9bOjCAKFBSmPnksNeTYCqPcqBrSR8ddUp1bMeXeHy0fKBa9YziWg$
>  
>
>

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