Thank you for the Divre ha-yamim reference, Cliff. It is found as a pair in Rashi<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.sefaria.org/Rashi_on_Genesis.25.22.1?vhe=Pentateuch_with_Rashi*27s_commentary_by_M._Rosenbaum_and_A.M._Silbermann,_1929-1934&lang=he__;JQ!!IBzWLUs!XVoalnD7Xz6QsjrEjfJoveh6CiKJPfFNJny1ut72Brqmrms5-W2JvdQHmJRv9tw4W8MEIeImoOz9xBqX$> on Be-reshit 25:22, which is vocalized with the kamats.
I have added the pair to the Fixed expressions wiki page<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://rascat.pbworks.com/w/page/7836006/Fixed*20Expressions*view=page__;JSM!!KGKeukY!xkNdqe21duB4EfKxRKfsnUOWgUafKSdmwFQl7t9jlIZ7d-9tYIHjgx7-DSep_DdmpfiGd8e_wfBkRu4IewKKsQ$ >. Kol tuv, Jasmin From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces+jshino=upenn....@lists.osu.edu> On Behalf Of Cliff Miller via Heb-naco Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2023 4:48 PM To: Marlene Schiffman <schif...@yu.edu>; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - romanization: שם ועבר Marlene, The two names do not appear as a pair in the Bible, as they do in Talmud and Midrash (which have no sacred vocalization) The name Ever does appear with the conjunctive vav in First Chronicles 5. 13, vocalized with a kamets, just as Marlene, The two names do not appear as a pair in the Bible, as they do in Talmud and Midrash (which have no sacred vocalization) The name Ever does appear with the conjunctive vav in First Chronicles 5.13, vocalized with a kamets, just as you surmised. Shanah tovah u-metukah, Clifford Miller From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu>> On Behalf Of Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2023 3:32 PM To: Shinohara, Jasmin <jsh...@upenn.edu<mailto:jsh...@upenn.edu>>; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>> Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - romanization: שם ועבר CAUTION: This email originated from outside JTSA. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Jasmin, Quick question: Shem ve-Ever? Shem va-Ever? I found 2 records on LC that have it both ways—naturally! Does it follow the pattern of Yom va-lailah? Thanks, חג שמח MRS Marlene Schiffman Metadata and Services Department Gottesman Library Hi Jasmin, Quick question: Shem ve-Ever? Shem va-Ever? I found 2 records on LC that have it both ways—naturally! Does it follow the pattern of Yom va-lailah? Thanks, חג שמח MRS Marlene Schiffman Metadata and Services Department Gottesman Library Yeshiva University 500 West 185th Street New York, N.Y. 10033 Gottesman Library Room 301 646 592 4276 From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces+schiffma=yu....@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco-bounces+schiffma=yu....@lists.osu.edu>> On Behalf Of Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 8:17 PM To: heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> Subject: [EXT] - [Heb-NACO] romanization: בין יציבות למהפכה **External Email** Hello, friends, and shanah ṭovah! The above title, on 1289500403, is correctly romanized Ben yatsivut le-mahpekhah : ʻaśor la-Aviv ha-ʻArvi (instead of the current Ben yetsivut la-mahapekhah : ʻaśor le-Aviv ha-ʻAravi). Fixed fields and other Hello, friends, and shanah ṭovah! The above title, on 1289500403, is correctly romanized Ben yatsivut le-mahpekhah : ʻaśor la-Aviv ha-ʻArvi (instead of the current Ben yetsivut la-mahapekhah : ʻaśor le-Aviv ha-ʻAravi). Fixed fields and other fields were corrected/added. For the 16 libraries with holdings on the title, you may wish to update your local records. Please let me know if there are any questions. (All three words, יציבות, מהפכה, ערבי, are in the romanization FAQ. LC was notified separately) Thanks, Jasmin --- J a s m i n S h i n o h a r a Hebraica Cataloging Librarian [Penn Libraries logo]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.library.upenn.edu/__;!!KGKeukY!yOnSrIKmPWNzzAUdsZqWt4kQh7QtO8JP_ZAVIPuXd1YgOeoAdHmFhbgrdqmiEmASsCX9vy1x-oyik12woHnuJw$> PCC Funnels Coordinator: Hebraica BIBCO & NACO | Judaica SACO 215-746-6397 | jsh...@upenn.edu<mailto:jsh...@upenn.edu>
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