>>>>> "Miles" == Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Miles> In my experience it can take tramp up to 30-40 seconds to Miles> open the first file on a remote machine, even over a local Miles> network! Ange-ftp isn't great either, but it's faster than Miles> that (especially once the connection is established). I Miles> expect sftp would be even faster if made to work. >> I'm guessing that tramp tries to abstract over the different >> transport mechanisms, and so can't use their features as much? Miles> Not really -- tramp is written for a very specific method of Miles> operation: it uses a user login session on the remote Miles> machine, doing all communication over the standard input and Miles> ouput channel for that login. I think it's common to have Miles> remote login capabilities even when FTP doesn't work, so Miles> tramp might be more widely usable. Presumably this is only true for inline methods? Things like the scp method can't assume login capability. Miles> Tramp tries to make few assumptions about the availability of Miles> various programs on the remote machine, and doesn't assume a Miles> clear communications channel, so it is forced to use some Miles> very clunky and slow methods (for instance, it actually Miles> downloads various scripts to the remote machine when it first Miles> connects, and always encodes files for transfer using a Miles> conservative safe encoding). Ah. Yes, you were right in your first post. I really didn't want to know that as it is, officially, too scary. Phil _______________________________________________ Help-gnu-emacs mailing list Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs