That's interesting, It seems Kotlin is a challenge.
What are the current challenges with Kotlin? Is it Kotlin's dependency on
Gradle? or sth else?

To be honest, though, Gradle is a very important part of the Java ecosystem
and is essential for achieving full-source bootstrapping of Java
components(such as spring framework etc.).
Since Java’s release model involves distributing pre-built JAR files rather
than source code, having Gradle allows us to rebuild these JAR files, which
is very important.

live well,
Roy

On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 12:16 AM Vagrant Cascadian <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On 2026-03-24, Roy Pan wrote:
> > I would like to inquire whether anyone has experience or insights
> regarding
> > Java Gradle bootstrapping.
>
> Earlier this month, someone posted about successfully bootstrapping
> gradle on guix-devel:
>
>   Success with Gradle 4.5.1 (+JUnit 5 and Spock)
>   https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2026-03/msg00180.html
>
> live well,
>   vagrant
>

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