I've followed the L4/Hurd effort for several years now, casually checking in on their websites every so often. Not much so far. It really sucks that I can't boot Gnumach anymore, I'm an adventurous soul and I used to get a little thrill from firing up GNU and toying with it on occasion.
What about the "Fiasco" L4 variant. I would have thought that it would
be rather ideal for Hurd in that it is written in a much more portable manner
than L4 itself. Hurd aims to be the ultimate cross platform environment, so
getting extra ports for free right at the start is a really good thing.
Btw, my little Netwinder server with the StrongARM SA110 275MHz RISC processor is rumored to be a supported platform for OSKit. I can only imagine the incredible amount of work that would be required to get Hurd booting on a Netwinder; however, it would then also boot on a Zaurus :-) Point your PDA at an IR receiver and access supercomputing power!
Thats what has always let me down with Hurd so far is that it has not lived up to its clustering legacy. Ideally if you boot something like Debian Hurd, it should link itself with every other node that is accessable and share processing jobs as required. A lot of the so-called "bloat" in Mach is all this wild code to let processes and tasks run in a generic way on a hetrogenous collection of diversely connected processors.
Actually with the incredible processing speed and power of the latest cpu designs, the overhead of Mach is still rather negligable in most instances compared to the benefits it could achieve were it really used in the way it was intended, Hurd always seemed to me somewhat slower than a similar Linux setup on the same machine; however it was slow in peculiar ways suggesting that some libs were just not very optimized yet. I know when I get Gnumach to boot on this XP2400+ it will be scary fast. WOOT :-{P
--- <32>(thunder)[/home/doug] $ alsaplayer BigRed_Run4.wav &
Ognyan Kulev wrote:
B. Douglas Hilton wrote:
Actually, I'd probably have a much easier time getting L4 working on my a7n8x. Hmm... do I sniff a weekend project brewing? I've been slacking off for a long time, might be time for a mini-hackathon...
Well, there is no Hurd/L4 where you can type "ls", for example, and there won't be in the near future. So playing with L4 is much more mental activity than hacking activity. But it's still more exciting than Mach.
Regards
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