+1

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 4:31 AM, John Norman <j...@7fff.com> wrote:

> I agree entirely.
>
> The messaging needs to have a very strong correlation to reality. If
> "elevated error rates" describes a specific thing, we should know exactly
> what that is. If it covers a range of issues, then the message is
> insufficient.
>
> And, of course, Eric's point about what "elevated" could possibly mean is
> spot on.
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Eric Anderson <e...@pixelwareinc.com>wrote:
>
>> I have noticed that MANY of the messages on http://status.heroku.com
>> generally take the following pattern:
>>
>> 1. We noticed elevated error rates
>> 2. Our engineers are looking into it
>> 3. The error rates have subsided and engineers are monitoring
>> 4. The errors have subsided
>>
>> The issue on 4/28 is a good example but I have seen this pattern
>> before and I am wondering:
>>
>> 1. Why do they use the term "elevated error rates". Does this imply
>> there are occasional errors on the Heroku platform normally and they
>> only really start looking into issues when the number of errors gets
>> too high? It seems to be when things are running normal there should
>> be 0 errors coming from the Heroku platform (obviously customer apps
>> will have errors). Or am I reading too much into their wording?
>>
>> 2. They don't really say they did anything. I would expect something
>> like "we found the root cause of <reason> and have done <action> to
>> fix the problem". But the wording almost implies all they did was
>> monitor the situation and the errors subsided on their own.
>>
>> 3. They say "the errors have subsided". Does that means they are just
>> getting the errors back into their acceptable range. Or that they are
>> no errors at all? Is there still some lingering issues?
>>
>> I just find the wording of these status messages very vague and they
>> don't ever give me any confidence that the root cause has been
>> determined and permanently resolved. Am I just reading too much into
>> these messages?
>>
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