There's always the option of making your own buildpack that reads the
.gems file or that dep thing, or really whatever you want.

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Michel Martens <sove...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Keenan, thanks for replying :-)
>
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Keenan Brock <kee...@thebrocks.net> wrote:
>> Hello Michel,
>>
>> I think this is a great example of heroku being ahead of their time.
>>
>> When .gems was introduced, there wasn't a way to specify gem dependencies in
>> a ruby project.
>> Back then, dependencies were a mess - heroku even had to run their own
>> custom fork of rails.
>
> There were other means to define dependencies (for instance, Bundler
> was initially inspired by this library:
> https://github.com/djanowski/dependencies). I think Heroku's solution
> was very elegant, and continues to be.
>
>>
>> Now, the Gemfile is a common and standard way of specifying dependencies.
>> There is a whole community adding features and documenting implications and
>> nuances.
>
> It is true that there wasn't a standard before Bundler. What I think,
> and I guess most people will disagree with me, is that even though
> Bundler was imposed upon every Rails developer, it doesn't mean it is
> the standard for the rest of the Ruby community. Sure, I could go
> along with the masses and adopt Bundler, but it feels wrong because it
> is way out of my workflow. Bundler is a very big dependency, I don't
> like the idea of it being imposed on me. Just for reference, this is
> the tool we use for managing dependencies at the company I work for:
> https://github.com/twpil/dep
>
>> It makes sense for heroku to drop their proprietary tool and go with the
>> common one, no?
>> That way they can dedicate their resources on other great stuff to give to
>> us.
>
> It may makes sense for Heroku, I really don't know if they will lose
> clients by dropping support for the .gems manifest. I don't have the
> power to avoid that from happening, sadly. If it were up to me, I
> would stick to the minimalism of the .gems manifest and also support
> Gemfile, given that most of the applications deployed to Heroku are
> built with Rails.
>
> Thanks!
>
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