Update on the hexacomb cardboard issue:

I just spoke with Bill at Pregis again today, and apparently 48x96x1
hexacomb is not being stocked in California or Oregon...the closest
west coast place is Tharco in Algona (sp?) Washington.

Bill is calling me tomorrow (7/21/09) with a freight rate on a pallet
shipped to central California (where I live).  There are 48 sheets to
a pallet, and my group requires 35 of them.  If anyone wants to get in
on this, or increase the order and lower the cost for all, please do
contact me asap and I will do my best to organize this so that we can
all benefit.

Best,
Anne

On Jul 13, 9:20 pm, Plague <richshuma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey everyone.
>
> From last years research Thermaxx is very hard to find.  Here in
> Oakland I thought I had found it and purchased mine at Truitt and
> White.
> Unfortunately when I got it home and told people what I had gotten it
> was NOT Thermaxx HD.
>
> I enjoyed the structure I did build last year.  Too short for me as I
> am 6' tall and I kept hitting the wall walking in.  There was plenty
> of room inside.  I built an 8 foot Hexayurt(video tour of the test
> build at my YouTube site).  Also I needed a  better heat air exchange
> system as the two wall windows did not allow me to vent the top heat
> correctly.  I was still comfortable inside all the time.  Little to no
> playa dust and cooler during the day and warmer at night then almost
> everyone.
>
> I am switching materials to cardboard and using fire resistant/proof
> additive to add to paint.  I am also looking at gluing mylar in key
> exterior areas to help reflect the heat.  This is a more cost
> effective solution even if it does require more time.  I don't think
> it will be as thermally cool as using insulation ;) Although I think
> the mylar & paint combo should help.  I don't know if the space age
> paint(NASA developed ceramic paint) used on the outside of shipping
> containers houses(ISBU's) to keep them cool would be cost effective or
> work properly on cardboard.
>
> Since Burning Man is an ART event.  I would recommend that people
> start dressing up the outside of Hexayurts both for aesthetics and to
> tell them apart.
> There were several on the Playa last year and they look like the space
> ships had landed, hehehe.
>
> Oh and the metal tape is the easiest to put on the edges if you don't
> have a sticking tape issue.  Or should I say a non sticking tape
> issue.
>
> Home Depot stopped carrying the low grade version of Thermaxx in my
> area just after burning man last year.
>
> My total build cost last year was close to $600 including the air lock
> interior and I have left over tape as my skills at reading and
> arithmetic are not so good.  So I probably could have saved some on
> tape for sure.  Hopefully I will have enough for this year.
>
> Also I hope to have a more complete build video this year.  Built it
> all by myself last year with a bit of help on the playa so I couldn't
> easily document what I did as I was doing it.
> Building was easy and would have lasted months if not years.  I say
> this because it was interesting to tear down.  Amazing how well that
> Bi filament tape holds stuff.
>
> Rich Shumaker
>
> On Jul 13, 2:05 pm, Anne <heyitsa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I posted info on purchasing hexacomb cardboard over in the "cardboard"
> > thread, and after seeing everyone's woes on acquiring thermax I
> > thought I should post something here as well.
>
> > Pregis makes hexacomb cardboard and they have distributors all over
> > the US and Europe.  I was able to acquire 48x96x1" sheets for $12.70
> > each.
>
> > Bill Wetzbarger
> > wwetzbar...@pregis.com
> > 419-566-4292
>
> > We are building a modified 8' hexayurt (with 6' walls) for this year's
> > burn.
>
> > On Jul 9, 9:25 am, Vinay Gupta <hexay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Can we find 20 people who'd buy $300 of boards for their hexayurt  
> > > project, to get a much, much better structure than they'd get for  
> > > their $200 of boards from Home Depot?
>
> > > I don't know for sure, but I think so. I think that Fundable has some  
> > > time limits (gotta raise funds in 30 days or something?) I'm not  
> > > quite sure. But let's look at doing it, because Thermax HD is really  
> > > a _spectacular_ material for the Hexayurt, and I'd like to see it in  
> > > use this year if possible.
>
> > > Vinay
>
> > > --
> > > Vinay Gupta
> > > Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest
>
> > >http://bit.ly/flucode-pleasefollow the Flu Code
> > > if you are in a flu-effected area. It protects us all.
>
> > >http://guptaoption.com/map-socialproject connection map
>
> > >http://hexayurt.com-free/opennext generation human 
> > >shelteringhttp://hexayurt.com/plan-thewhole systems, big picture vision
>
> > > Gizmo Project VOIP : (USA) 775-743-1851
> > > Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk/AIM: hexayurt
> > > Twitter: @hexayurthttp://twitter.com/hexayurt
> > > UK Cell : +44 (0) 0795 425 3533 / USA VOIP (+1) 775-743-1851
>
> > > "If it doesn't fit, force it."
>
> > > On Jul 9, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Doug wrote:
>
> > > > At $20 to $25 per sheet that would be about $4600 to $5800 to raise.
> > > > It does seem doable at fundable.org and is not a risk if we don't get
> > > > to the whole amount.  Sounds like a good plan.  I'm out to an all-day
> > > > meeting until about 5:00 and if you want me to set it up, I can do it
> > > > then.
>
> > > > Thanks.
>
> > > > Doug
>
> > > > On Jul 9, 9:06 am, Vinay Gupta <hexay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> I think that 230 sheets - just about 20 hexayurts - is totally
> > > >> doable. What do you think about getting together a http://
> > > >> Fundable.org thing and doing a bulk purchase? Because they'll be
> > > >> great - longer lasting, stronger, tougher, better risk profile, the
> > > >> works.
>
> > > >> Let's do this!
>
> > > >> Vinay
>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Vinay Gupta
> > > >> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest
>
> > > >>http://bit.ly/flucode-pleasefollowthe Flu Code
> > > >> if you are in a flu-effected area. It protects us all.
>
> > > >>http://guptaoption.com/map-socialprojectconnection map
>
> > > >>http://hexayurt.com-free/opennextgeneration human  
> > > >> shelteringhttp://hexayurt.com/plan-thewholesystems, big picture  
> > > >> vision
>
> > > >> Gizmo Project VOIP : (USA) 775-743-1851
> > > >> Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk/AIM: hexayurt
> > > >> Twitter: @hexayurthttp://twitter.com/hexayurt
> > > >> UK Cell : +44 (0) 0795 425 3533 / USA VOIP (+1) 775-743-1851
>
> > > >> "If it doesn't fit, force it."
>
> > > >> On Jul 9, 2009, at 4:44 PM, Doug wrote:
>
> > > >>> I did call Service Partners in Sacramento this morning.  Same  
> > > >>> problem.
> > > >>> The guy knew without looking that he didn't carry Thermax.  He  
> > > >>> let me
> > > >>> know that with the closing of the DOW plant out here, getting  
> > > >>> Thermax
> > > >>> is really tough.  He also confirmed that they need an entire  
> > > >>> truckload
> > > >>> or 230 sheets or so as a minimum order.  (Let's see, at 240 sheets
> > > >>> that would be a 20 hexayurt order.) He did not really have a good
> > > >>> substitute, noting that RMAX did not have the heavy duty version.
>
> > > >>> So, at the moment, if anyone has a good recommendation for the next
> > > >>> best substitute insulation board, I'd be interested in your  
> > > >>> opinions.
>
> > > >>> Thanks very much.
>
> > > >>> Doug
>
> > > >>> On Jul 8, 7:49 pm, Doug <dougk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > >>>> Bill:
>
> > > >>>> Thanks for the tip.  I'll call in the morning and report to the  
> > > >>>> group
> > > >>>> on availability
> > > >>>> of Thermax HD.
>
> > > >>>> Doug
>
> > > >>>> On Jul 8, 7:13 pm, "Bill Wiltschko" <b...@wiltschko.org> wrote:
>
> > > >>>>> Btw, in the msg below Doug despairs of finding Thermax.  Service
> > > >>>>> Partners
> > > >>>>> (www.service-partners.com) stocks it in Sacramento as well as
> > > >>>>> many other
> > > >>>>> flavors of insulated panels. 8321 Demetre Avenue, Sacramento.
>
> > > >>>>> Bill Wiltschko
> > > >>>>> In AEZ on the playa
>
>

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