Two things: 1. Brilliant solution, Steve, for bending rebar into U shapes. Thank you! I, too, have wrestled with the totally unsatisfactory 'J' shapes. You're right, they don't pound into the ground well. And I've worked way too hard creating U shapes of rebar.
2. Uprooting rebar anchors: This may help. It has worked for me. I carry a 3 lb shop hammer and tap vigorously on the top sides of the 'U' and later, on the edges of each arm extending into the ground. The vibration loosens the earth all around the stakes all the way to the bottom depth, making them much easier to tug out. (Though, still sometimes they are a challenge.) I also use a nail-puller crow-bar for tugging, hooking the curved part of the crow bar through the rebar "loop." Sometimes beating upward with the hammer on the bottom of the crowbar while it is hooked around the rebar helps. At the very least, it makes an impressive clanging, clinking noise. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Upstill To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [hexayurt] How much tape?? Rebar stakes: after two years of wrangling with a big, wind-prone shade structure, I have happily settled on the scheme of bending 3/8" rebar into a long U. (The candy-cane J shape just goes nuts when you're pounding it in.) There are three tricks for this: 1) get a long (3 or 4 feet) section of galvanized pipe big enough to accept your rebar. Insert the rebar almost halfway, lay it on the ground and fold it into shape by bringing the galvanized up and over. 2) Get another, 1' section of galvanized big enough to barely accommodate your bended rebar. Get it threaded on one end, and put a cap on it. Insert the bent end of your rebar U into it and pound on the cap. It keeps your U from distorting in the course of pounding. 3) Think ahead about extraction, which can be a real bitch on teardown day. While I don't have a definitive solution, you need to lever the rebar out, and that can require a large moment of leverage, which in turn requires a base that won't sink into the Playa. Sadly, pipe will bend, but if your bent rebar will accommodate a 3/4" piece of plywood, think about how to use a slab of that for the purpose. Cheers, Steve On Jul 26, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Mark Newell wrote: Hey Jason These pegs will work but they can also bust sometimes if the playa is hard and you're using a regular hammer. I've used many things over the years but find the plain old rebar last and works great. You can use 12-15" lengths for your yurt with fine results, and even 3/8th will be strong enough for this application. If you can bend it, making either a little hook at the top (most ideal), or a good 'U' shape is convenient for tying your guy lines to. If you go with the "u', make sure the legs are parallel and straight, or they wander as you whack them in to the ground causing the ground to be disturbed along the way and weakening the hold. Making a J works good too; you pound your rebar most of the way in, then set your line in the J, then pound it the rest of the way in to the ground, hiding the tripping/toe-ripping hazard. If you go with the straight rebar, make sure you can tie a good half hitch or other friction type knot to keep the line on the rebar under load. And old tennis balls work great as rebar end protectors. So, yes they work, but they don't last. Mark Newell [email protected] 206-261-1784 On 7/26/2010 8:48 PM, Jason Payne wrote: What about these pegs for 0.75? http://www.campbound.com/ABS-Tent-Pegs.aspx Also, what kind of rope? On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Jason Payne <[email protected]> wrote: I cannot find the tape spreadsheet. In fact,I never found a detailed and complete materials list... but here is what I have... 12 Panels for basic design 2 rolls 6" filament tape{assembly only} tape for edges like aluminum{save moolah} or 6" bidirectional filament tape 12, 6"x3/4" PVC pipe pipe for tie downs rope for tie downs circus tent pegs, or pegs, rebar furnace filters for window vents So I am asking everyone, did I miss anything, or do you have something to add? On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:32 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: It's four if you do the edges with the six inch tape. Assembly takes about two, but check the tape spreadsheet (linked from the hexayurt wiki) to double check! Vinay Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: peach <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:44:58 To: hexayurt<[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: [hexayurt] How much tape?? I'm seeing some conflicting info on this.. One part of the hexayurt wiki says 2 rolls of 6'x60yards, the playa checklist says 4 rolls... We got our panels (yes!) and we edged em with foil tape (to save money and it won't melt in the heat). When I do the quick math, seems like 4 rolls is excessive for a hexayurt based on all the measurements. Seems like 2 would cover it (including taping the inside ring along the tarp). Am I just bad at math? The tape is so expensive, we don't want to order much more than we need. 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