Greetings,

On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 16:51 -0600, ken winston caine wrote:
> Hi Percy:
> 
> I can't remember what materials your pentayurt was constructed of. Was it 
> OSB and 2x4 plus the racheting strap (nylon?)?

Roof triangles were held together with 2x6 on the middle seam, and piano
hinges on the edges, with aluminum/tar flashing over the seams.

Sides were held by 4x4s on the inside corners, and firring straps around
the roof/wall edge.  The drywall screws that were holding the OSB to the
4x4s pulled through the wood.

Never get tasty grease on the nylon ratcheting strap.  Scavengers will
eat it.  Even though it is nylon.

Percy

> 
> Thanks,
> ken
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "The Distinguished ..." <percyha...@gmail.com>
> To: <hexayurt@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 2:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [hexayurt] Re: 8 foot door question, and beveling edges
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 01:00 -0400, Richard Ginn wrote:
> > Do you have photos or drawings of how it failed?
> 
> I should take photos, but basically the ratcheting strap that was
> holding the walls in (and transferring the force to the ground) got
> broken under unfortunate circumstances, so it stayed, free-standing
> except for a few drywall screws pretty much all New England winter until
> the last major snowstorm in which the downward force was too much the
> walls exploded outward and the roof fell straight down.
> 
> Percy
> 
> >
> > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:28 PM, The Distinguished ...
> > <percyha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >         Well ... the band went on my pentayurt, and it lasted all but
> >         the last
> >         snowfall, before the weight caused the walls to shear outward,
> >         so I'm
> >         going to rebuild sometime this summer, and, since I'm
> >         rebuilding, I
> >         thought I'd try the h13.  Is there a printable paper model pdf
> >         somewhere, or sketchup designs of it?
> >
> > 
> > http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=4424f713497456b55cec6f2fc6dab36c&prevstart=0
> >  
> > is everything but.
> >
> >         There is also rumors of a H14 ... although, that is starting
> >         to look
> >         like a long-house and might have wind-sheer problems from one
> >         side ...
> >
> >         Of course, looking like a more traditional structure might
> >         make it more
> >         acceptable ...
> >
> >         Thanks!
> >
> >         Percy
> >
> >
> >         On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 17:44 -0700, dylan toymaker wrote:
> >         > vinay,
> >         >
> >         > where is the sketchup repository?
> >         >
> >         > i have a model i can clean up to post there.
> >         >
> >         > i put up another h13 picture post on my blog, showing doors
> >         and
> >         > whatnot.
> >         >
> > 
> > http://dylantoymaker.net/toybox/2011/04/27/h13-insulated-yurt-assembly/
> >         >
> >         > i'll see if scott has the angle details somewhere to share.
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > On Apr 27, 8:38 am, hexay...@gmail.com wrote:
> >         > > Don't do it this way. Use the H13 design instead. It's
> >         much better.
> >         > >
> >         > > http://www.google.com/search?q=H13%20hexayurthas lots of
> >         pictures and details!
> >         > >
> >         > > Bevels:
> >         > > 1. wall-to-wall boards meet at 120 degrees
> >         > > 2. wall-to-roof boards meet at 120 degrees
> >         > > 3. roof-to-roof boards meet at 150 degrees
> >         > >
> >         > > Bevels are therefore 30 degrees on each board for the
> >         first two, and 15 for the third.
> >         > >
> >         > > I haven't calculated the angles for the H13's extended
> >         roof in Sketchup but it only takes a minute - there's a
> >         protractor tool that measures the angle between panels. Could
> >         somebody take a crack at that please? Dylan, is there an H13
> >         model in the sketchup model repository?
> >         > >
> >         > > I haven't figured out the best way to do a Burning Man H13
> >         yet, but I think it's a fairly linear extension of the
> >         standard hexayurt approach. Guy-and-anchor  the 8' wall side
> >         *really* well, though - that *will* catch the wind.
> >         > >
> >         > > The H13 hexayurt was designed by Scott Davis and Dylan
> >         Toymaker and it's my recommended design for most purposes now.
> >         I love the symmetry and absolute purity of the original
> >         hexayurt, but the H13 doorway and interior space are much more
> >         liveable - for just one more 4x8 sheet. It's a *great* piece
> >         of work.
> >         > >
> >         > > The H13 hasn't been built at Burning Man yet, so there
> >         will be a learning curve, but I think it's the way to go!
> >         > >
> >         > > Vinay
> >         > >
> >         > > Sent from my BlackBerryŽ wireless device
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > > -----Original Message-----
> >         > > From: Icarus <burningman...@gmail.com>
> >         > >
> >         > > Sender: hexayurt@googlegroups.com
> >         > > Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:27:41
> >         > > To: hexayurt<hexayurt@googlegroups.com>
> >         > > Reply-To: hexayurt@googlegroups.com
> >         > > Subject: [hexayurt] 8 foot door question, and beveling
> >         edges
> >         > >
> >         > > My question is based on this picture
> >         > >
> >         > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonx/1332624694/
> >         > >
> >         > > My question is how long do you extend the roof panels to
> >         get the door
> >         > > side to rise up to 8 feet. I assume 2 feet on each side?
> >         > >
> >         > > Also, what angle do the edges for the same Hexayurt need
> >         to be beveled
> >         > > for the wall panels and the roof panels. Obviously the
> >         door side will
> >         > > be different, as I am more concerned about the other five
> >         sides.
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