the  desing on thge side of keybox of the nigout .showingman and girl  are   
realy the same than my 1859 pouget,,, it coud  be   made  by  pouget son  ( or 
in colaboration with...!)..

 i heard some gurdy now by you tube  , it seemms to have    big difference 
between the sound of old instruments like old one pictured on site and   newer

even  i  realy love old instruments   .. newer sounds  better at my ears.. not 
all..but ..
  bye sylvain
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott McKee 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [HG] Hurdy Gurdy Plans


  Excellent link Graham. I hadn't come across these photos in my Internet 
travels. Very interesting to see these older instruments.

  Scott
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Graham Whyte 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 1:06 PM
    Subject: RE: [HG] Hurdy Gurdy Plans


    There are lots of flat back guitar shaped French HGs
    They should be less of a challenge to build than lute-backs
    I have the privilege of owning and playing two 19th century HGs

    You can see them at
    http://www.hurdygurdy.org/historical.htm
    They are by Nicolas Colson and Denis-Joseph Germain
    The Colson in particular is stunning musically
    If you click on the Germain pic, there are more detailed pics
    Both were restored by Alden & Cali at Olympic Musical Instruments

    I personally don't know of any plans of this style

    Graham Whyte


    -----Original Message-----
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott McKee
    Sent: 04 January 2008 19:45
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: [HG] Hurdy Gurdy Plans


    Hello All:

    I have just joined the list and I must say I am amazed at the volume of 
e-mail and the enthusiasm shown for the hurdy gurdy. My name is Scott and I 
live on the west coast of Canada on Vancouver Island. I am a lifetime 
woodworker and I have had a passion for building musical instruments for most 
of my woodworking career though I haven't made my living as a luthier. I have 
built quite a few acoustic guitars over the years and have always wanted to 
build a hurdy gurdy. I have an old hg plan from 1978 that was drawn by Scott 
Antes. However, it seems to be lacking in detail. 

    I'm sure this question has been asked here many times but where can I 
purchase a set of plans that are detailed enough to allow me to build a high 
quality hurdy gurdy? I followed the discussion started by Douwe yesterday with 
great interest and checked out many of the links. I was particularly interested 
in the La Vielle à Roue by Michel Pignol http://vielleroue.free.fr website. 
Although I don't speak French I think I could manage to decipher most of the 
text given the French I learned in high school with a bit of help from the 
Internet translation engines. I would prefer, at least for a first instrument, 
not to build a French style lute backed hg as it seems that the project would 
be complicated enough without adding curved staves to the equation. I do like 
the general outline of the French style hurdy gurdies.

    I have found many sets of plans offered on the Internet but with little hg 
experience it's hard to know which plans are 'good' and which would be an 
exercise in frustration. 

    Thanks in advance

    Scott


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