> I have also other problems with lazy collections. I get WARNings about
> Unclosed Sessions (finalize method in SessionImpl). I use Maverick Web
> MVC Framework and it has discard() method in one interface that you can
> implement. I have put my Session closing code in it, but it doesn't
> help. It continues to leave sessions open. I have tried almost
> everything, but I cannot get rid of those Unclosed Sessions. Only
> solution I have found is closing session before going to a view
> rendering phase, and that means that lazy initialization is not an
> option anymore.

on the project i am currently working on we use a servlet filter to open a
connection in a try block and stick the close connection in a finally block.
we r not having any probs with lazy initialisation or unclosed sessions.
however, we r also not using the absolute latest version of hibernate.

> Also I see that Hibernate uses a lot of finally {} blocks to do some
> cleaning. If I understand correctly, at least what I have read from some
> of IBM's whitepapers, they don't recommend you to use finally {} to do a
> cleaning (mainly they don't recommend to put connection closing code in
> it) as it cannot be determined when that block gets called. I migth be

u definitely don't want to rely on finally blocks to clean up connections,
sockets, etc. when it can/should be done some other way.  however, aren't
they the last line of defence when u r relying on someone else to clean up
after themselves?   for example, only the developer of the client app knows
when they r finished with a session and therefore when to close it.

regards
brad



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