Hi,

The "JVM wide system property derby.system.durability to the value true" does just that (recommended by the Derby crowd). And it has an effect, but surely not enough; my oracle installation runs faster.

/max


There maybe some setting we are just missing for test purposes.  For
example, I don't know about you, but on my Oracle setup I disable
recovery logging on the datafiles backing my test schema.  Without
disabling this option, it is painfully slow to run the testsuite against
Oracle; and obviously I don't care about recovery of my test data ;).

Wasn't one of the Derby guys interested in helping us with any issues we
encountered in Derby usage/adoption?

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Hi,

yes - there is alot more "weird" limitations, but Derby is not alone in

that
aspect (db2 comes to mind ;) But the turnaorund performance is
disappointing.

/max



AFAIR, the DDL generation fails on my test suite for this DB. They are

too strict in some are. So unless they've relaxed some restriction,
it's
a nope for me.

Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

Hi,

A small FYI crosspost here since both communities has talked about
it.

Tonight I tried out Derby and followed the advise about running Derby
with the JVM wide system property derby.system.durability to the
value
test.

It certainly has an effect, but Derby is still sluggish with this
setting
compared to all other dbs on my box (mysql, oracle and hsql) - maybe

the  dialect can be
tuned more; but as a development db HSQL still has a *much* better
turnaround
time.

/max

Sacha Labourey wrote:

I think that Alexey had evaluated it (right?) and mentionned it was

nowhere
close from the original closed source product. Maybe I am
mistaken...

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Its been very slow compared to using hsqldb with hibernate test
suite  - at  least the two times i tried to use it.

It seems like it is not very well optimized for DDL and queries
when   running in embedded mode.

That might have changed, but it should at least be
tested/considered   before changing away from the
test/developer friendly hsqld.

When Derby were named Cloudscape it actually had more sql features

and  were faster...but apparently
they did their best to make it DB2 compliant ;)

/max




Its been asked in the past. Someone needs to validate that


it works as

the default db and update the service to start it. Alexey has a
prototype in varia:
org.jboss.jdbc.DerbyDatabase


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Should we switch to derby for JB5?  Seems it is a fully
featured DB unlike Hypersonic which supports XA and everything.


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