Gavin King wrote:

Guys,

I’d like to request that everyone here pitch in and be a bit more aggressive about closing off useless JIRA issues. JIRA is absolutely no use to us if it is clogged up with thousands of issues that no-one is going to look at in the next two years!

Remember, JIRA is for **our benefit as developers**, it is **not** there to allow users to escalate problems they are having in the forum, or to give them an outlet for nagging/whinging. If an issue report is not serving a useful purpose for us (ie, we will actually get round to **fixing** the issue sometime in the next year) then it should be immediately closed. It is otherwise extremely difficult to get a handle upon what is the overall status of the project in terms of known bugs, and high priority new features.


Thanks.

Gavin

Doesn't JIRA has a "LATER" or "REMIND" state for these kind of issues? The fact that you are rejecting an issue, without giving proper consideration (I'm pretty sure you haven't) doesn't mean that the issue must be stored and forgotten.

Remember that we - developers - are contributors as well as users. We contribute with our testing, ideas, patches, code, etc. A JIRA resolution must have a good reason to be! Any open source project works that way and I don't see why do you insist of treating developers as "naggers" or "beggers".

Now, I apologize for cloning the issue. I just found it rude and inconsiderate for a commiter to close an issue without giving a proper commentary. HHH-1005 is NOT a support request. Is a change requirement, or whatever that means in an Open Source development process. So, Gavin, I advise you to not alienate the developer base. I know the project is important and has a lot of followers, and that my opiniion is one in many others, but keep it that way!

Now, I agree with you that these kind of discussion belongs here and not in JIRA. I'm sorry for that but I expect you to take the issue in consideration. It's important not only for me, but for other people. And we also think that a lot of people haven't realized the hidden bug (in the eyes of the end users) that current Criteria functionality puts in a project.

As for your comment:

There is a particular kind of user who thinks that every issue they
report in JIRA deserves some kind of special personalized response from the >Hibernate Team. This is **absolutely not the case**. JIRA is **not** a support portal, rather, it is our personal TODO list.


Yes, every report in JIRA deserves personalized response from the Hibernate Team. Not for support, but for giving it at least consideration!

I'd like to see the opinion of other Hibernate Team members about this, too. I offered a patch so its just a matter of thinking if the improvement is useful or not, and reviewing it later.

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Ing. Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi
Director Técnico
DTQ Software


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Ing. Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi
Director Técnico
DTQ Software
Teléfono: (506) 363-7535
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