All Higgins solutions including the various flavors of the Higgins Selector
are (or are supposed to be):
* branded Higgins 
* downloadable as a set of components and deployable

In addition for some of these there may be packaged/rebranded versions
available (e.g. From Novell as ³DigitalMe²). These versions are often better
packaged and easier to install than the equivalent Higgins versions.

But you¹re right we need to lay this out more clearly.

--Paul

On 3/18/09 1:29 AM, "Drummond Reed" <[email protected]> wrote:

> One point: If it stays singular (³Higgins Selector²), the reader is going to
> expect to be able to download and install and use something branded as the
> ³Higgins Selector². However if the Higgins Selector is only available as a set
> of components that are packaged and rebranded for distribution by others
> (e.g., Azigo, DigitalMe), then the underlying pages should explain that
> clearly, and provide links to where the branded packages can be downloaded.
>  
> =Drummond 
>  
> 
> 
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Paul Trevithick
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:13 PM
> To: higgins-dev
> Subject: Re: [higgins-dev] Reorganizing Higgins site/content (another tweak)
>  
> It was a conscious choice in the interest of simplicity. All of the separate
> selectors we have could be thought of as just different flavors for different
> platforms. But there¹s really only one thing, the Higgins Selector. By
> contrast, behind the other 2 doors are mixtures of different kinds of things.
> 
> Could be wrong. What do others think?
> 
> --Paul
> 
> On 3/17/09 2:19 PM, "Mary Ruddy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Should door number 1 be called Higgins Selectors (plural) since all three
> doors point to multiple things?
> 
> 
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Paul Trevithick
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:58 PM
> To: higgins-dev
> Subject: Re: [higgins-dev] Reorganizing Higgins site/content (another tweak)
> 
> Oops. That was a typo. IDS was supposed to be ³Identity Data Service² (see red
> correction below).
> 
> BTW, I¹ve implemented tonight these changes in the home page and the top three
> ³overview²/door pages (now as wiki pages) in the staging area here:
> http://www.eclipse.org/higgins/ver2/index.php
> 
> --Paul
> 
> 
> On 3/16/09 10:39 PM, "Mary Ruddy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Cleaning  this up will be great. It would be nice if we could get even  more
> differentiation between IDS and IdAS. Both have long names of  Identity
> Attribute Service. What about IDWS (Identity Attribute Web  Service)?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]  On Behalf Of Paul Trevithick
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:23 PM
> To:  higgins-dev
> Subject: [higgins-dev] Reorganizing Higgins site/content  (another tweak)
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I¹m just back from three days of Higgins  meetings in France with the FC2
> consortium. The experience prompt the  following proposed changes to the
> site/wiki content:
> 
> TODAY         -->         PROPOSED
> =====                    ========
> 
> Clients                  Selectors
> -------                  ---------
> AIR  Client & Server     AIR Selector (including  ICS)
>                         Web  Selector (including ICS)
> ICM[missing!]            merged into the  above
> RCP                      no  change
> GTK/Cocoa                no  change
> FF-embedded              no  change
> 
> Identity Services       Identity  Services
> -----------------        -----------------
> WS-Trust IdP             no  change
> SAML IdP                 no  change
> RP                       no  change
> Web Selector             moved up  above
> XDI4J                    moved  down  below
>                  
> Identity  Att. Svcs      Attribute  Services
> ------------------       ------------------
>                         IDS  - multiprotocol web  service
>                         XDI4J  - now moved  here
>                         IdAS  - today's Java framework
> 
> Where IDS is short for "Identity Data Service," a multiprotocol
> attribute data service  (web service) based on IdAS  framework.
> 
> Advantages/Disadvantages
> ------------------------
>   +  All three "doors" are now doors to multiple things  (consistency)
>   + We differentiate between the IdAS Java  interfaces and the IDS
>   + We use "selector" instead of  "client"
>     + so we can include the "web selector"  under "selectors"
>     + now all selectors are grouped  together under "Selectors"
>   + XDI4J has a better  home
>   + The missing WEB (GWT) I-Card Manager now has a  home
>   + Now IDS can support Plaxo Portable Contacts, XDI, etc.  without
>     being confused with the name of the  underlying framework (IdAS)
>   - The client word was a less  bias-proclaiming word than selector.
>     We switched to  client when we thought contributions from
>     IDIB  and/or Liberty (ECP, etc.) folks might be  forthcoming.
>     Now we should just go back to making a  "multi-protocol" selector
>     and be welcoming by our  actions (true  multi-protocol-ness).
> 
> --Paul
> 
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