Sergey,

Since you, Valery and perhaps others think that having a model API would be
much more convenient to use than directly navigating the
entities/attributes, let¹s keep the IModel interface (and related
interfaces). But must align them with the underlying entities & attributes
as described here [1]. I¹ve updated [1] recently thus creating some
mismatches. Please review [1] and let me know if anything is unclear as to
what the semantics are supposed to be.

[BTW, I¹m aware that the concept of display order is missing from [1] and it
probably needs to be added. I¹m thinking that it should be added as an
attribute of a ³class-scoped attribute class²].

--Paul 

[1] 
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Higgins_Data_Model_1.1#Representation_of_Entity_and_
Attribute_Classes

On 10/21/09 10:17 AM, "Sergey Lyakhov" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Paul,
>  
>> > What Jim and all of us talked about several months ago is to remove the
>> special IModel interfaces completely,
>> > and just use the existing entities and attributes to describe entity
>> classes and attribute definitions. In other words, recurse.
>  
> The main Jim's argument to rid IModel interfaces was to reuse alredy existent
> IEntity and IAttribute inerfaces. Actually, I already gave arguments a year
> ago, why the current model interfaces are more convenient:
>  
> 1. The current model interfaces allow to represent  many things obviously.
> Suppose, we need to expose the model of a simple value. If we used Jim's
> model, we'd represent simple value model via IEntity intrerface (which is
> confusing by itself). Than, to represent params of this simple value (there
> are many things in OWL1.1 like length, minLength, maxLength, pattern, etc.),
> this IEntity should contain an attribute for each of those params. In turn,
> the attribute should contain some ISimpleAttrValue with data of its parameter.
> From the other hand, the current IModel interface can reflect OWL in a more
> convenient way. If we need params of some simple value, we get an instance of
> ISimpleValueModel (either from IAttributeModel or from ISimpleAttrValue), and
> invoke its methods getLength(), getMinLength(), getMaxLength() etc.
>  
> 2. IdAS interfaces (IEntity, IAttribute) have a lot of methods behind of
> getType() and getData() which are not used in Jim's model. I suppose these
> methods will confuse people which need to use a model.
>  
> 3. Jim's model is flexible and could represent anything, but we do not need
> this, because we limited by OWL and need to describe things which OWL
> provides. IModel, in turn, could be disigned to reflect OWL constructs handy.
>  
> Thanks,
> Sergey Lyakhov
>>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>  
>> From:  Paul  Trevithick <mailto:[email protected]>
>>  
>> To: higgins-dev <mailto:[email protected]>
>>  
>> Cc: Vadym Synakh <mailto:[email protected]>  ; Paul Trevithick
>> <mailto:[email protected]>   ; Igor  Tsinman <mailto:[email protected]>
>>  
>> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 10:55  PM
>>  
>> Subject: Re: [higgins-dev] IdAS changes  proposal
>>  
>> 
>> What Jim and all of us talked about several months ago  is to remove the
>> special IModel interfaces completely, and just use the  existing entities and
>> attributes to describe entity classes and attribute  definitions. In other
>> words, recurse.
>> 
>> On 10/16/09 11:49 AM, "Sergey  Lyakhov" <[email protected]>  wrote:
>>  
>>> 
>>>> >  1. We define a new .api2 that replaces the IFilter stuff with SPARQL.
>>>  <snip>... replaces IModel interfaces with something you were  going to
>>> propose.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
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