Re: Improved i-card.owl checked inPaul,

>> I see the following cases:
>> 1. Store claim values in separate Entity. In this case transaction problems 
>> possible if entities are stored in different contexts.
>> 2. Store values as a complex attribute value(s) :
>> 2.1. P-Card has a single-valied attribute with "Claims" value. All 
>> attributes of this value has attrID == claim type.  
>> In this case claim values are predefined in schema.
>> 2.2. P-Card has a multy-valied attribute with "Claim" values. These values, 
>> in turn, have two attributes: claimType and claimValue. 
>> In this case we can use the same schema for different sets of claims.
 
> ## Before I respond to your proposal, I want to see if we first agree on 
> something else. In CDM 1.1 attributes can have either (a) literal 
> value(s) or (b) complex value(s). If (b) the value IS an entity. Do you agree 
> with that?


Now IdAS confirms to CDM 1.1. So, to store claim values of p-card we need to 
choose one of the following aproaches:

1. P-Card has a single-valied attribute with "Claims" Entity. All attributes of 
this entity has attrID == claim type.  
 In this case types of claim values are predefined by schema.

Example:
  xmlns:claims=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/05/identity/claims/
  <icard:ClaimList rdf:ID="myClaims">
    <claims:givenname rdf:datatype="xsd:string">myName</claims:givenname>
  </icard:ClaimList>



2. P-Card has a multy-valied attribute with "Claim" values. These values, in 
turn, have two attributes: claimType and claimValue. 
In this case we can use the same schema for different sets of claims.

Example:
  <icard:ClaimList rdf:ID="myClaims">
  <icard:Claim>
    <icard:claimType 
rdf:datatype="xsd:string">http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/05/identity/claims/givenname</icard:claimType>
    <icard:claimValue rdf:datatype="xsd:string">myName</icard:claimValue>
  </icard:Claim>
  </icard:ClaimList>


Which aproach should we use?

Thanks,
Sergey Lyakhov
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Trevithick 
  To: Sergey Lyakhov 
  Cc: Vadym Synakh ; Igor Tsinman ; higgins-dev 
  Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 5:27 PM
  Subject: Re: Improved i-card.owl checked in





  On 9/18/09 6:56 AM, "Sergey Lyakhov" <[email protected]> wrote:


    Paul,

    > 1. I presume that you've stayed entirely within the IMI specifications? 
It seems that you have. That was the intent. 
     
    I used MS CardSpace 1.5 doc and infocard xml schema 
http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/05/identity. I reviewed IMI 1.0 
specification, and did not find any difference. However I found out that 
ic07IssuerInformation element  has a predefined data structure, and should not 
be a string.  As a result, I've added IssuerInformationEntry class, entryName 
and entryValue datatype properties, replased ic07IssuerInformation with the 
same object property. Also I fixed some my previous errors. I attached updated 
i-card.owl schema.

    ## Great. Thanks.
     
    > 2. WRT your #16: CDM does (in my mind) support polymorphism although I 
realize that the IdAS API does not-but we can fix this when we remove the Model 
APIs from IdAS 
     
    Actually, Model API could correctly treat a polymorphism in a schema. Are 
you going to replace it with a model proposed by Jim a year ago (I and Valery 
think it is not convenient to use it) or plain just to use owl schema instead 
of Model API?

    ## I have yet another idea up my sleeve. Valery probably won't like it 
either, but we'll see. I'll let you know within 1 week.
     
    > 4. WRT your #17: Do you have ideas about how to represent these values? 
     
    I see the following cases:
    1. Store claim values in separate Entity. In this case transaction problems 
possible if entities are stored in different contexts.
    2. Store values as a complex attribute value(s) :
    2.1. P-Card has a single-valied attribute with "Claims" value. All 
attributes of this value has attrID == claim type.  In this case claim values 
are predefined in schema.
    2.2. P-Card has a multy-valied attribute with "Claim" values. These values, 
in turn, have two attributes: claimType and claimValue. In this case we can use 
the same schema for different sets of claims.
     
    ## Before I respond to your proposal, I want to see if we first agree on 
something else. In CDM 1.1 attributes can have either (a) literal value(s) or 
(b) complex value(s). If (b) the value IS an entity. Do you agree with that?
     
    > 5. Would you be willing to create an i-card-instance.owl file that 
contains an example p-card and an example m-card?
     
    I attached icardinstances.owl with those example cards. This ontology 
imports claimTypes.owl where claim type instances are defined. 

    ## Wonderful, thank you.
     
    Thanks,
    Sergey Lyakhov


      ----- Original Message ----- 
       
      From:  Paul  Trevithick <mailto:[email protected]>  
       
      To: Sergey Lyakhov <mailto:[email protected]>  
       
      Cc: Vadym Synakh <mailto:[email protected]>  ; Igor  Tsinman 
<mailto:[email protected]>  ; higgins-dev <mailto:[email protected]> 
 
       
      Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:47  AM
       
      Subject: Improved i-card.owl checked  in
       

      Sergey,

      This is a giant improvement, thank you.  I have checked it in here [1].

      Questions for you:
       

        1.. I presume that  you've stayed entirely within the IMI 
specifications? It seems that you  have. That was the intent.   
        2.. WRT your #16:  CDM does (in my mind) support polymorphism although 
I realize that the IdAS  API does not-but we can fix this when we remove the 
Model APIs from IdAS    
        3.. WRT your #18: I  made these changes, thanks.   
        4.. WRT your #17: Do  you have ideas about how to represent these 
values?   
        5.. Would you be  willing to create an i-card-instance.owl file that 
contains an example  p-card and an example m-card? If so I'll turn them into 
diagrams and I'll  use them to replace the overly simplistic diagrams here [2]. 
I think that  will help folks understand this sub-part of PDM 1.1 (i.e. The 
i-card.owl  part) much better. 


      --Paul

      [1] 
https://dev.eclipse.org/svnroot/technology/org.eclipse.higgins/trunk/ontology/org.eclipse.higgins.ontology/i-card.owl
      [2]  http://wiki.eclipse.org/Persona_Data_Model_1.1#I-Cards


      On  9/15/09 2:58 PM, "Sergey Lyakhov" <[email protected]>  wrote:

       

        Paul,
         
        I made the following changes to  attached i-card.owl:
         
        1. I-Card should be able to contain  extensions (in xml form).
        2. ClaimType should also have the following  datatype properties : 
claimTypeName, claimTypeDescription.
        3.  supportedClaimType should be object property with ClaimType range.
        4.  I-Card should have supportedTokenType datatype property.
        5. pinDigest  should have I-Card as a range (now CardSpace supports it 
for both m- and  p-card, we did not yet implement it for m-card).
        6. cardName property  missed for I-Card.
        7. cardVersion property missed for I-Card.
        8.  masterKey property missed for I-Card.
        9. langId property missed for  I-Card.
        10. issuer property missed for I-Card.
        11.  stsPrivacyPolicyVersion missed for M-Card.
        12. M-Card should have  tokenService object property with TokenService 
range. 
        13. TokenService  should have endpointReference object property with 
EndpointReference  range.
        14. EndpointReference should have address, metadataAddress and  
certificate properties.
        15. TokenService should have userCredential  object property with 
UserCredential range (also, there is  CredentialDescriptor class defined in 
i-card.owl which duplicates  UserCredential). 
        16. UserCredential should be able to contain all forth  credential type 
descriptors. I added them as extended classes of  UserCredential, but not sure 
it is correct. Does CDM support  polymorphism?
         
        Also the following changes need to be  done:
         
        17. P-card needs claim values.
        18.  strongRecipientdentityRequired - the label contains "require 
aplies to", but  this is not quite correct. It meaning is RP should provide a  
cryptographically protected identity, for example, an X.509v3 certificate.  
Also "I" is missed in the name of this property, moreover, in CardSpace docs  
it is named as RequireStrongRecipientIdentity.

         




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