Hi,

sure, the idea is to finish the discussions. If the conclusion is that
there is no need to significantly change the draft, then a new IETF LC
will not be needed.

Cheers,

Gonzalo

On 25/09/2014 2:15 PM, Rene Hummen wrote:
> Thanks Ted for clarifying.
> 
> On 25 Sep 2014, at 14:49, Gonzalo Camarillo <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Thanks for your note, Ted.
>>
>> Group, approving this draft now and starting a new "tris" draft right
>> away does not really make sense. Shall we give Tom a couple of weeks to
>> put together a revision of the draft and then go through a new IETF LC
>> and IESG evaluation?
>>
>> As Ted said, this new process would be easier since the diff would not
>> be that large.
> 
> Should we first agree that we indeed want to separate the HIT suite ID from 
> the OGA ID and that a simple clarification of how a HIT suite ID maps to an 
> OGA ID does not suffice? The latter would probably be a minor edit that could 
> still be fixed without starting a new evaluation round.
> 
>> On 25/09/2014 1:35 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
>>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 8:24 AM, Rene Hummen 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> just wondering if the decision was made for us, as RFC5201-bis was 
>>>> approved yesterday:
>>>
>>> The kind of deliberation that you are doing post-IESG-approval on a draft 
>>> really isn't appropriate.   If there is an error in the draft, you should 
>>> certainly tell me you need to fix it.   But if you are having a policy 
>>> debate about something that wasn't resolved prior to the end of working 
>>> group last call and IETF last call, I'm afraid it really belongs in a -bis 
>>> document.  And that's what this discussion looks like to me.
>>>
>>> That said, the reason I approved the document yesterday was because when I 
>>> went hunting through my email for comments relating to the review of the 
>>> document, I didn't find any, because this discussion hasn't been referring 
>>> to the document.   If there is some *appropriate* fix that needs to be made 
>>> to the document, I can pull it out of the RFC editor queue or we can 
>>> address it during AUTH48.   But the sort of changes that would be 
>>> appropriate in that context are quite restricted.   
>>>
>>> In order to make substantive changes that represent a new working group 
>>> consensus, we would have to do a new last call and re-review it in the 
>>> IESG.   I expect that could be done quite expeditiously if the working 
>>> group decided it was necessary, but you need to tell me now if that's what 
>>> you want.
>>>
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