Dear Bob Richmond, our honorable Samurai Pathologist. The consensus of opinion around here is that you have been spending too much time smelling formalin! We can't figure out how you get the smell of ether from Formula 83! Most of us here are old enough to remember the smell of ether but don't equate it with Formula 83.
Respectfully, Linda Linda Blazek HT (ASCP) Manager/Supervisor GI Pathology of Dayton 7415 Brandt Pike Huber Heights, OH 45424 Phone: (937) 293-4424 ext 7118 Email: lbla...@digestivespecialists.com -----Original Message----- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Richmond Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:16 PM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] Re: Xylene substitute Questions about xylene substitutes: This has been discussed a good many times on Histonet. There are two classes of xylene substitutes: Limonene and turpentine are terpenes. Several brands; AmeriClear was mentioned. Limonene is prepared by steam distillation of orange peels. It has a strong citrus smell variously described as pleasant, overwhelming, disgusting, and allergenic, and cannot be made odorless. It is not very toxic, is not easily set afire, and is to a degree biodegradable. It cannot be distilled. With America's declining citrus industry, this once cheap product has become considerably more expensive. Aliphatic solvents are now in much more widespread use. They are more expensive than xylene, but can be recovered by distillation. Most of them are odorless, at least to my nose. They are not very toxic. Some have much lower flash points than others, so that fire hazard varies considerably. They are not easiy biodegradable. Different brands differ considerably in chemical and physical properties, and distillation routines for one brand cannot be used with another brand. Richard Allan's Clear-Rite 3 may be the most widely used aliphatic. ANATECH's Pro-Par was mentioned in this correspondence, and is very meticulously described on their Web site. I hadn't heard of CBG Biotech's Formula 83 before. Slightly different from ordinary aliphatics, it is described as a "naphthenic hydrocarbon blend" (cycloalkane). It is described as "smells like ether", and I would be concerned about its very low flash point (45 F, below room temperature, as described in the MSDS). When you mention who makes a commercial product, please tell us who makes it, and read the Materials Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) at the product's Web site and see what you can find out what's in it. I have no commercial connection with any product I've mentioned. Bob Richmond Samurai Pathologist Knoxville TN _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet