I'll respond to this, as these are my students. Yes, my students ARE hired at our hospital, AND with the 90 day probation, same as outside candidates.
The difference is that, our department has already been working with the HT students for 7 months, and the HTL students for 11 months. 5 days a week, 8 hours a day. Everyone in the labs has been working with the students, and knows the students, and knows their knowledge and ability and personality and attitude. When there is an opening, the techs get a say in which student they want to hire and work with. Any program graduate hired in our labs is under the 90 day probabation, but basically they have already been through a 7 and 11 month "probation" as a student. We would still fire a graduate new hire during their 90 day probation. However, while they were students in our program, we had already gotten rid of students who did not learn well enough, or couldn't do the procedures, and, if there was an attitude problem, it either got settled, or they left. So by the time a student graduates and gets hired by our lab, there are very few suprises. If we are hiring someone from the outside, we don't know their knowledge, ability, personality and attitude. We don't know them. We don't know if how they will fit into our lab and with everyone else in the lab. And we haven't been assessing them for the previous 7 and 11 months. So the 90 days probation time is even more important. That's one of the reasons to have a School in your institution, or to be a clinical affiliate for a college-based HT/HTL program. Or even one of the on-line HT/HTL programs. You get to assess the students ahead of time, to see if you want to hire them, to see if they are capable, to see if they would be a good fit with your people. (Hint, hint - we need more programs, and more clinical affiliates!) Sharon - Please feel free to add anything else. I hope I'm not putting words in your mouth. I'm speaking as the program director, not as the histology lab supervisor. (disclaimer here) Peggy A. Wenk, HTL(ASCP)SLS Beaumont Hospital Royal Oak, MI 48073 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Podawiltz, Thomas Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:11 PM To: Sharon Scalise; Bill O'Donnell; Esther Peters Cc: Histonet Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam Based on what you just said, the students that come from your school do not have to do a 90 probationary period while someone you hire from the outside does? Man, could I have fun from a HR perspective on unequal treatment of new hires. Tom Podawiltz, HT (ASCP) Histology Section Head/Laboratory Safety Officer LRGHealthcare 603-524-3211 ext: 3220 ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sharon Scalise [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:00 PM To: Bill O'Donnell; Esther Peters Cc: Histonet Subject: Re: [Histonet] Practical Exam It is up to each individual institution to "test" a new hire for their competency. We are lucky to have both an HT and HTL program at our hospital so when we hire a graduating student we already know their work habits and skill level. If I do hire someone from the outside, they have 90 days that they are in a probationary period. If during this 90 day period they have not proven their ability to complete the required work according to our standards, they could be let go or I have the option to extend the probationary period. Whether they have completed a practical exam or not, they still need to prove they are competent after they are hired. We have had to hire from the outside (yes it is a pain going through this process) and you hope that your new hire is as competent as they claim to be. But in the end you will be the one stuck with an incompetent employee if you don't "test" them and catch it before their probationary period ends. Whether or not they have taken a practical exam really does not matter in the end, almost anyone can redo a stain enough times to get it right. The real question is, can they do it right on a daily basis and in a timely manner? Sharon E. Scalise, HTL (ASCP) Histology Supervisor William Beaumont Hospital Royal Oak, MI 48073 248 898-5981 _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet THIS MESSAGE IS CONFIDENTIAL. This e-mail message and any attachments are proprietary and confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not print,distribute, or copy this message or any attachments. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete this message and any attachments from your computer. 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