Casper:

I have a reproducibly good method for HEIR for two Abs I routinely use (alpha 
smooth muscle actin in mouse liver and proliferating cell nuclear antigen 
(PCNA) in mouse liver).  

I use a microwave pressure cooker (Nordic Ware, tender cooker).  Into the 
pressure cooker, I place 300mL of distilled water to keep the humidity high 
during the in my pressure cooker. I use a citrate buffer solution which 
contains 0.01M sodium citrate dihydrate and 0.04M citric acid monohydrate, pH 
6.0.  I place 500mL of this solution into a 1.5pt (710mL) 'servin' saver' 
container and set the filled container into the pressure cooker (into the 
distilled water).  I slip my slides into an autostainer rack and place the rack 
on its side in the citrate buffer soln.  I microwave the entire setup at 50% 
power (1100 watt microwave) for 20 minutes and then allow the cooker to cool 
down for 20 additional minutes.  

When I remove the cooker from the microwave, I open it on my bench and take the 
temperature of the citrate buffer.  It is usually between 95-98C.  After the 20 
minute cool-down, the temperature of the citrate buffer is around 56-57C. Once 
completely cool, I test the pH of the citrate buffer to ensure that it is still 
at pH 6.0.  (I have taken these measurements a total of 11 times.)

My single failure when using this method of HIER was when the temperature did 
not get hot enough. I was rather naïve at the time and thought I would proceed 
with the staining and see what happened, assuming the pH was more important 
than the temperature.  So much for that hypothesis.  

Mind you, I fully disclose that my experience is rather limited to the two 
staining protocols I have optimized, but I offer up that experience for your 
edification.  Hope it helps!

Kind regards:

---mtp

Michele T. Pritchard, Ph.D.
Research Associate
Nagy Laboratory
Department of Pathobiology/NE40
Lerner Research Institute
Cleveland Clinic
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Cleveland, OH 44195
 
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Casper Hempel
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Histonet] HIER

Hi histonetters
We have been talking a lot about how to retrieve your epitopes using a
microwave in the best possible way.
We haven't come to an agreement and people in my lab both argue that
temperature and pH are important issues. Without a doubt both factors are
important for a proper retrieval, but if you have to focus on one of the
factors, which would you consider the most important? Temperature or pH?
The issue is mainly longer incubations of the slides in boiling buffer. The
buffer is evaporating and the solution/buffer gets less and less pH neutral
and you need to top up with dH2O. However, if you boil with reduced
intensity, less evaporation will occur and the pH will remain more stable.
Do you have any suggestions or comments to this issue?
Looking forward to your replies.
Cheers
Casper
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