I have also had 'general' safety inspectors (OSHA people who mostly focus on meat packing plants and food processors) make the same claim that we had to use metal or other cut resistant gloves. I had to demonstrate the task of cutting a frozen section to get them to understand. They still did not like it but they did recognize the problem. We do use chain mail gloves for the bone saw since it is a huge commercial band saw.
Joe Galbraith University of Iowa joseph-galbra...@uiowa.edu -----Original Message----- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jackie M O'Connor Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:39 AM To: Emily Sours Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] formalin storage To prevent getting cut on the knife. Emily Sours <talulahg...@gmail.com> 09/11/2009 08:34 AM To "Jackie M O'Connor" <Jackie.O'con...@abbott.com>, histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu cc Subject Re: [Histonet] formalin storage I have to ask--what was the point of chain mail gloves?! Emily "One of the defining characteristics of modern surgery was that patients ought to survive it." --Peter Stanley, For Fear of Pain: British Surgery, 1790-1850 On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Jackie M O'Connor < Jackie.O'con...@abbott.com> wrote: I once had my safety officer insist I wear chain maille gloves while cutting frozen sections. They didn' t care about all the reasons I gave them why I shouldn't - like it would be impossible to use the machine while wearing them, and the patient would have to lie on the operating table longer waiting to find out if their entire colon was going to be removed. "Jean Warren" <jwarre...@cinci.rr.com> Sent by: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 09/11/2009 08:25 AM To "Riesen, Rebecca" <rebecca.rie...@nchmd.org>, <histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> cc Subject Re: [Histonet] formalin storage No, it is ridiculous. Safety people tried to argue this with us years ago. One of our pathologists told them, "How can something that is almost 90% water be a combustion hazard?" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Riesen, Rebecca" <rebecca.rie...@nchmd.org> To: <histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:15 AM Subject: [Histonet] formalin storage We have been directed by our Safety Officer to store all formalin (37% and 10% NBF) in a flammable storage room, cabinet or container. Yes, 37% Formalin we do store in this manner, but I have never heard of this requirement for 10%NBF. I looked on line to many MSDS sheets from different vendors and found only one that stated such storage requirements for 10% NBF. During this search I found all but one company states that formalin is not flammable. I brought this to the Safety Officer. He agrees that it is not "flammable" but that it IS "combustible". Combustible=Flash point of 100F to 200F. Of the dozen sites I visited I found the following data concerning the Flash Point of 10% NBF: from "NA / >200F / 122F to 185F". The NFPA (National Fire Protection Agency) guideline of no more than 1 gallon in a flammable storage container and 1 gallon outside of a safety cabinet/container per 100 square feet is already quite limiting. Using this guideline, we have calculated acceptable volumes of the known flammables (Alcohols and Xylenes) we can store. Adding 10% NBF to the equation will have us traveling to our "bulk" storage area constantly. Does anyone out there store 10%NBF in flammable cans/cabinets? Riesen, Rebecca rebecca.rie...@nchmd.org NCH Healthcare Systems Direct 239-436-5000 x2188 Fax 239-436-6767 Visit our website at http://www.nchmd.org CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email and any files transmitted with it are from the NCH Healthcare System. This message is confidential and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this email in error, please call us immediately at (239) 436-5000 and ask to speak to the message sender or promptly email the message sender of the delivery error and then delete the message. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet