It is too long to type and can be found in the April 7th, AAPA e-news Today or it is ANP.11610 Phase II CAP regualtions/Exceptions Grandfathered at 42CFR493.1489 and 1491. These are the exact regulations and should anwser all questions about who can and a cannot gross. Sorry I just don't have it in way to send easily. I contacted the AAPA and got the info.
Pam Marcum Anatomic Pathology Manager UAMS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald Houston" <ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org> To: "Pamela Marcum" <mucra...@comcast.net>, "Kim Donadio" <kim.dona...@bhcpns.org> Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, "Robert Richmond" <rsrichm...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:41:59 AM Subject: RE: [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications Care to share with us what they told you regarding the specifics of who can and who cannot gross? Ronnie Houston Anatomic Pathology Manager Nationwide Children's Hospital Columbus OH 43205 (614) 722 5450 -----Original Message----- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Pamela Marcum Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 5:21 PM To: Kim Donadio Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Robert Richmond Subject: Re: [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications I went to the American Association of Pathology Assistants web site and then called them. I got the most help for the question of who can and who can not gross from them. It will not be state specific so if you think your state has other more complex rules you will need to check there. The rule I have now are what CAP will look for and that is what I am working toward. CAP is who will grade us - not the state overall. Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Donadio" <kim.dona...@bhcpns.org> To: "Robert Richmond" <rsrichm...@gmail.com> Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:55:33 PM Subject: Re: [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications There has been a lot of confusion about this. From my understanding the real definition of who can gross falls under the "High Complexity" testing category. This would be different for different states I think as well. Let me give an example. In the State of Florida pervious technicians may have been trained to Gross large specimens( or biopsies ). With this new law a technician in the state of Florida would not be able to continue to gross because in actuality they never held a license that allowed them to perform "High Complexity" testing. So they are not grandfathered in because of that clause. Technologist would, because they have always been able to preform "High Complexity" testing. I also think that which ever laws your state goes by for people who can perform "High Complexity" testing is your answer. I hope this helps. Kim Donadio Pathology Supervisor Baptist Hospital 1000 W Moreno St. Pensacola FL 32501 Phone (850) 469-7718 Fax (850) 434-4996 Robert Richmond <rsrichm...@gmail.com> Sent by: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 05/15/2010 04:46 PM To histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu cc Subject [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications Tanisha Neely HT(ASCP) asks: >>Are the guidelines for a tech who is strictly limited to grossing anatomic pathology specimens different than for those of a full time histotech? Could a bachelor degree'd person with the right course work qualify for this position? If so, does anyone have documentation of this? I'd like to present this as a staffing option to my management if possible.<< Well, I'm giving a talk on the subject to the Tennessee Society for Histotechnology meeting in Chattanooga, and I'm pretty confused about the question of who's allowed to gross - the rules seem to be changing, and different certifying organizations have different requirements. If somebody can spell out in detail who it is that's requiring what, I'd appreciate it. Bob Richmond Samurai Pathologist Knoxville TN _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ----------------------------------------- All electronic data transmissions originating from or sent to Baptist Health Care Corporation (BHC) are subject to monitoring. 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Rev.10/07. _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Donadio" <kim.dona...@bhcpns.org> To: "Robert Richmond" <rsrichm...@gmail.com> Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:55:33 PM Subject: Re: [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications There has been a lot of confusion about this. From my understanding the real definition of who can gross falls under the "High Complexity" testing category. This would be different for different states I think as well. Let me give an example. In the State of Florida pervious technicians may have been trained to Gross large specimens( or biopsies ). With this new law a technician in the state of Florida would not be able to continue to gross because in actuality they never held a license that allowed them to perform "High Complexity" testing. So they are not grandfathered in because of that clause. Technologist would, because they have always been able to preform "High Complexity" testing. I also think that which ever laws your state goes by for people who can perform "High Complexity" testing is your answer. I hope this helps. Kim Donadio Pathology Supervisor Baptist Hospital 1000 W Moreno St. Pensacola FL 32501 Phone (850) 469-7718 Fax (850) 434-4996 Robert Richmond <rsrichm...@gmail.com> Sent by: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 05/15/2010 04:46 PM To histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu cc Subject [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications Tanisha Neely HT(ASCP) asks: >>Are the guidelines for a tech who is strictly limited to grossing anatomic pathology specimens different than for those of a full time histotech? Could a bachelor degree'd person with the right course work qualify for this position? If so, does anyone have documentation of this? I'd like to present this as a staffing option to my management if possible.<< Well, I'm giving a talk on the subject to the Tennessee Society for Histotechnology meeting in Chattanooga, and I'm pretty confused about the question of who's allowed to gross - the rules seem to be changing, and different certifying organizations have different requirements. If somebody can spell out in detail who it is that's requiring what, I'd appreciate it. Bob Richmond Samurai Pathologist Knoxville TN _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ----------------------------------------- All electronic data transmissions originating from or sent to Baptist Health Care Corporation (BHC) are subject to monitoring. 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Ronnie Houston Anatomic Pathology Manager Nationwide Children's Hospital Columbus OH 43205 (614) 722 5450 -----Original Message----- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Pamela Marcum Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 5:21 PM To: Kim Donadio Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Robert Richmond Subject: Re: [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications I went to the American Association of Pathology Assistants web site and then called them. I got the most help for the question of who can and who can not gross from them. It will not be state specific so if you think your state has other more complex rules you will need to check there. The rule I have now are what CAP will look for and that is what I am working toward. CAP is who will grade us - not the state overall. Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Donadio" <kim.dona...@bhcpns.org> To: "Robert Richmond" <rsrichm...@gmail.com> Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:55:33 PM Subject: Re: [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications There has been a lot of confusion about this. From my understanding the real definition of who can gross falls under the "High Complexity" testing category. This would be different for different states I think as well. Let me give an example. In the State of Florida pervious technicians may have been trained to Gross large specimens( or biopsies ). With this new law a technician in the state of Florida would not be able to continue to gross because in actuality they never held a license that allowed them to perform "High Complexity" testing. So they are not grandfathered in because of that clause. Technologist would, because they have always been able to preform "High Complexity" testing. I also think that which ever laws your state goes by for people who can perform "High Complexity" testing is your answer. I hope this helps. Kim Donadio Pathology Supervisor Baptist Hospital 1000 W Moreno St. Pensacola FL 32501 Phone (850) 469-7718 Fax (850) 434-4996 Robert Richmond <rsrichm...@gmail.com> Sent by: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 05/15/2010 04:46 PM To histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu cc Subject [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications Tanisha Neely HT(ASCP) asks: >>Are the guidelines for a tech who is strictly limited to grossing anatomic pathology specimens different than for those of a full time histotech? Could a bachelor degree'd person with the right course work qualify for this position? If so, does anyone have documentation of this? I'd like to present this as a staffing option to my management if possible.<< Well, I'm giving a talk on the subject to the Tennessee Society for Histotechnology meeting in Chattanooga, and I'm pretty confused about the question of who's allowed to gross - the rules seem to be changing, and different certifying organizations have different requirements. If somebody can spell out in detail who it is that's requiring what, I'd appreciate it. Bob Richmond Samurai Pathologist Knoxville TN _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ----------------------------------------- All electronic data transmissions originating from or sent to Baptist Health Care Corporation (BHC) are subject to monitoring. 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Rev.10/07. _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Donadio" <kim.dona...@bhcpns.org> To: "Robert Richmond" <rsrichm...@gmail.com> Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:55:33 PM Subject: Re: [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications There has been a lot of confusion about this. From my understanding the real definition of who can gross falls under the "High Complexity" testing category. This would be different for different states I think as well. Let me give an example. In the State of Florida pervious technicians may have been trained to Gross large specimens( or biopsies ). With this new law a technician in the state of Florida would not be able to continue to gross because in actuality they never held a license that allowed them to perform "High Complexity" testing. So they are not grandfathered in because of that clause. Technologist would, because they have always been able to preform "High Complexity" testing. I also think that which ever laws your state goes by for people who can perform "High Complexity" testing is your answer. I hope this helps. Kim Donadio Pathology Supervisor Baptist Hospital 1000 W Moreno St. Pensacola FL 32501 Phone (850) 469-7718 Fax (850) 434-4996 Robert Richmond <rsrichm...@gmail.com> Sent by: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 05/15/2010 04:46 PM To histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu cc Subject [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications Tanisha Neely HT(ASCP) asks: >>Are the guidelines for a tech who is strictly limited to grossing anatomic pathology specimens different than for those of a full time histotech? Could a bachelor degree'd person with the right course work qualify for this position? If so, does anyone have documentation of this? I'd like to present this as a staffing option to my management if possible.<< Well, I'm giving a talk on the subject to the Tennessee Society for Histotechnology meeting in Chattanooga, and I'm pretty confused about the question of who's allowed to gross - the rules seem to be changing, and different certifying organizations have different requirements. If somebody can spell out in detail who it is that's requiring what, I'd appreciate it. Bob Richmond Samurai Pathologist Knoxville TN _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ----------------------------------------- All electronic data transmissions originating from or sent to Baptist Health Care Corporation (BHC) are subject to monitoring. 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