Toni brings up a very good point.... you know it's pretty bad when a company is willing to pay your waste costs... Not a good business plan. Why not 'fix' the machine so that it's more "green"
Maria Katleba MS HT(ASCP) -----Original Message----- From: Rathborne, Toni [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:10 PM To: Pamela Marcum; Maria Katleba Cc: histonet; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: [Histonet] Ventana vs Leica We recently acquired the Bond III. It was a tough decision, but space was the main reason we went with Leica. The Ventana sales team that visited our lab was very eager to get the account. Their pricing was not much different. They even offered to credit us for additional waste disposal. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Pamela Marcum Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 3:48 PM To: Maria Katleba Cc: histonet; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Histonet] Ventana vs Leica I totally agree and we have an Ultra, 2 XTs and 3 Benchmarks. They are good systems that need to get cheaper and more flexible. I am demoing the Bond III and love the ease of use, flexibility and cost savings, most. Maria is right it is about 40% less to run than a Ventana. Pam Marcum AP Manager UAMS Little Rock, AR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria Katleba" <[email protected]> To: [email protected], "Jay Lundgren" <[email protected]> Cc: "histonet" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:32:08 PM Subject: RE: [Histonet] Ventana vs Leica Hi Jay, I have the Ventana Benchmark XT...love it......BUT Leica is LESS EXPENSIVE!!! Reasons to buy Leica Bond: 1. Does IHC and ISH (yes- so does the Ventana) 2. Continuous feed (Ventana does NOT offer this!!!!) 3. Space saver, much smaller footprint than Benchmark 4. No wasted antibodies... 5. Not forced to buy EXPENSIVE prep kits either.... 6. Cost to run with reagents is about 40% less than Ventana- Yes! I did my own cost analysis 7. Won't blow tissue off the slide! 8. No where near the waste that Benchmark has!!! I went to the Leica Symposium in San Francisco last week. I was able to ask many grueling questions... They did a very good job of honestly addressing each one. Honestly, if I was asked right now to buy...it would be Leica! Regards, Maria Maria Katleba MS HT(ASCP) Pathology Dept. Mgr Queen of the Valley Medical Center 1000 Trancas Street Napa CA 94558 (707) 252-4411 x3689 direct (707) 226-4385 pager (707) 294-9229 cell- anytime -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:05 PM To: Jay Lundgren Cc: histonet; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Histonet] Ventana vs Leica Jay, I currently use the Ventana and am very pleased with the results I get. The only draw back is the cost to run the instrument. It can get quite pricey. They added space on the antibody wheel but took space away from the slide area. This has impacted our work flow greatly. We are however looking to purchase a second one. This one will have continual through put. That should help out with TAT. Hope this helps. Beatrice Sullivan, HT(A.S.C.P.) HTL , AAS, CLSP(N.C.A.) AP Supervisor Shore Memorial Hospital 609-653-3590 Jay Lundgren <jaylundg...@gmai l.com> To Sent by: histonet histonet-bounces@ <[email protected]> lists.utsouthwest cc ern.edu Subject [Histonet] Ventana vs Leica 08/24/2010 02:30 PM I was wondering if anyone out there had experience with both the Ventana Ultra and the Leica Bond immunostainers. I realize that most people have a personal preference as to brands, but I'm not looking for a knee-jerk opinion (LEICA RULZ!!!!11 or VENTANA FTW!!), just someone who has had actual experience working on a daily basis with both instruments. If this is you, could you please tell me which you preferred and why. I'm currently working for a facility in MT which has narrowed down its search to these two instruments. No vendors please, they've already given their pitches. Thanks, Jay A. Lundgren M.S., HTL (ASCP) _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ________________________________ Notice from St. Joseph Health System: Please note that the information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria Katleba" <[email protected]> To: [email protected], "Jay Lundgren" <[email protected]> Cc: "histonet" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:32:08 PM Subject: RE: [Histonet] Ventana vs Leica Hi Jay, I have the Ventana Benchmark XT...love it......BUT Leica is LESS EXPENSIVE!!! Reasons to buy Leica Bond: 1. Does IHC and ISH (yes- so does the Ventana) 2. Continuous feed (Ventana does NOT offer this!!!!) 3. Space saver, much smaller footprint than Benchmark 4. No wasted antibodies... 5. Not forced to buy EXPENSIVE prep kits either.... 6. Cost to run with reagents is about 40% less than Ventana- Yes! I did my own cost analysis 7. Won't blow tissue off the slide! 8. No where near the waste that Benchmark has!!! I went to the Leica Symposium in San Francisco last week. I was able to ask many grueling questions... They did a very good job of honestly addressing each one. Honestly, if I was asked right now to buy...it would be Leica! Regards, Maria Maria Katleba MS HT(ASCP) Pathology Dept. Mgr Queen of the Valley Medical Center 1000 Trancas Street Napa CA 94558 (707) 252-4411 x3689 direct (707) 226-4385 pager (707) 294-9229 cell- anytime -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:05 PM To: Jay Lundgren Cc: histonet; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Histonet] Ventana vs Leica Jay, I currently use the Ventana and am very pleased with the results I get. The only draw back is the cost to run the instrument. It can get quite pricey. They added space on the antibody wheel but took space away from the slide area. This has impacted our work flow greatly. We are however looking to purchase a second one. This one will have continual through put. That should help out with TAT. Hope this helps. Beatrice Sullivan, HT(A.S.C.P.) HTL , AAS, CLSP(N.C.A.) AP Supervisor Shore Memorial Hospital 609-653-3590 Jay Lundgren <jaylundg...@gmai l.com> To Sent by: histonet histonet-bounces@ <[email protected]> lists.utsouthwest cc ern.edu Subject [Histonet] Ventana vs Leica 08/24/2010 02:30 PM I was wondering if anyone out there had experience with both the Ventana Ultra and the Leica Bond immunostainers. I realize that most people have a personal preference as to brands, but I'm not looking for a knee-jerk opinion (LEICA RULZ!!!!11 or VENTANA FTW!!), just someone who has had actual experience working on a daily basis with both instruments. If this is you, could you please tell me which you preferred and why. I'm currently working for a facility in MT which has narrowed down its search to these two instruments. No vendors please, they've already given their pitches. Thanks, Jay A. 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