I believe the 25 cases are for ER/PR/Her-2 testing.  We have done this recently 
and we ran about 10 for each antibody.  We have over 100 ourselves and it took 
quite a while.  There will be some antibodies that you will be unable to find 
10 slides to test, so do as many (or as few) as your Medical Director is 
comfortable with to validate the stain.

Good luck!

Ashley Troutman BS, HT(ASCP) QIHC
Immunohistochemistry Supervisor
Vanderbilt University Histopathology
1301 Medical Center Drive TVC 4531
Nashville, TN  37232

Message: 14
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:12:42 -0500
From: "Weems, Joyce" <jwe...@sjha.org>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC validation
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      <jnoc...@satx.rr.com>,  Histonet <histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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But that is for receptors, correct? Do you do that for everything?
Thanks, j

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Liz Chlipala
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 17:58
To: Joe Nocito; Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC validation

Joe

If you are following the recommendations from the CAP paper on IHC 
standardization then it would be 25 tissues (10 strong positive, 10 weak to 
moderate positive and 5 negative).

Liz

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Nocito
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 3:44 PM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] IHC validation

Greetings Histoland,
I need some help. We are about to switch IHC machines from the Richard-Allen 
Axiom to the Ventana Benchmark Ultra. How many slides, per antibody, do you run 
for the validation study? We have over 100 primary antibodies. Normally, when 
we work up a new antibody, we  start with a titer. Once that is established, we 
run 10 cases to check for specificity. Hopefully we can obtain cases that are 
really positive, some weakly positive and some flat out negative. Once that is 
completed, we run 10 different tissue types to check for any unexpected 
cross-reactivity.
    The ultra holds 30 slides and we are receiving two machines. If we run 10 
slides/antibody, that's going to take a while, not to mention the number of 
detection kits that will be used. Do you think 5 slides/antibody is sufficient? 
I emailed CAP last week for their take and they never returned my email (I told 
my medical director to hold their check for the year and see how fast they 
respond to that). Ah oh, don't go down that road Joe, it's unhealthy. What are 
your thoughts?
Thanks

Joe (JTT)

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