I agree with Liz and use 5-10% formic acid for decal for IHC work, on the other hand if you are trying to demonstrate iron deposits or some enzyme histochemical stains such as TRAP or Alk.phos you may need to use EDTA.
Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC Ruegg IHC Consulting, LLC 40864 Arkansas Ave Bennett, CO 80102 Phone: 303-644-4538 Fax: 720-859-4110 pru...@ihctech.net -----Original Message----- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Chlipala Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 11:00 AM To: 'Rene J Buesa'; Diana McCaig; 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu' Subject: RE: [Histonet] decal affecting IHC Diana I agree with Jack, formic acid is the way to go in my opinion, we use 10% formic acid routinely but have pushed it up to 20% on occasion when time was an issue. HCL can work if its controlled really well but you don't have much wiggle room, you can over decal quite quickly, formic acid is a bit more forgiving. As for Rene's comment we have seen the exact opposite with respects to the EDTA decal part. Granted we do not run a lot of IHC on EDTA decaled samples but on several occasions and with several antibodies we were able to obtain good IHC staining in formic acid decaled samples but those antibodies did not work well in EDTA decaled samples. These were not direct comparisons of the decalcification method on the same study, but on samples from different studies so other factors could have affected the results. Liz Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC Manager Premier Laboratory, LLC PO Box 18592 Boulder, CO 80308-1592 (303) 682-3949 office (303) 682-9060 fax (303) 881-0763 cell www.premierlab.com Ship to address: 1567 Skyway Drive, Unit E Longmont, CO 80504 -----Original Message----- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:47 AM To: Diana McCaig; 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu' Subject: Re: [Histonet] decal affecting IHC IHC reactions can be affected by decalcification especially if: 1- the tissue is not perfectly fixed before going into decalcification 2- decalcification is done at temperature above room temp. 3- decal solution is too acid, specially made with inorganic acids. If at all possible decalcification should be done with a chelating agent, like EDTA René J. ________________________________ From: Diana McCaig <dmcc...@ckha.on.ca> To: "'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'" <histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 12:34 PM Subject: [Histonet] decal affecting IHC Does decalcifying tissue (Calex II) affect the antibody reaction for IHC in bony tissue? Diana _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet